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chl, do you need ssn?
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:25 am
by texasnatt
hi,
i'm just wondering if you NEED a ssn to obtain a chl,
i'm in the USA legally but i'm not allowed a ssn due to my visa only being an H-4, my wife is here working and i'm a bystander,
i just purchased a beretta px4 storm for in the house but being from the UK we aren't allowed pistols so i thought doing the chl would be good training even if i decided not to carry,
just wondered if a ssn is necessary,
thanks,
natt
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:55 am
by seamusTX
The form says that the social security number is required persuant to Texas Family Code § 231.302 (c) (1), which concerns child support payments.
You might try calling DPS and asking if you can qualify. I don't know exactly what type of visa is required.
- Jim
Re: chl, do you need ssn?
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:42 am
by txinvestigator
texasnatt wrote:hi,
i'm just wondering if you NEED a ssn to obtain a chl,
i'm in the USA legally but i'm not allowed a ssn due to my visa only being an H-4, my wife is here working and i'm a bystander,
i just purchased a beretta px4 storm for in the house but being from the UK we aren't allowed pistols so i thought doing the chl would be good training even if i decided not to carry,
just wondered if a ssn is necessary,
thanks,
natt
Go to the DPS CHL website and ask via email or call.
http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administra ... sindex.htm
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:53 am
by texasnatt
thanks,
just rang them and they said yes, you need a ssn to prove you are a legal resident,
well i am a legal resident but can't have a ssn as i'm not allowed to work,
so, i'm no further forward,
i'm gonna email them now,
thanks,
natt
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:08 pm
by seamusTX
Your situation is outside my knowledge and experience. Are you familiar with this web site?
http://www.atf.treas.gov/firearms/faq/faq2.htm#r1
- Jim
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:21 pm
by texasnatt
oh well,
i got my wires crossed, i thought i was ok as i was a legal resident and had an admission number,
now i'm thoroughly confused,,,,,,
does anyone wanna buy a beretta px4 storm that i bought last night?????
natt
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:29 pm
by texasnatt
i'm legally here for a minimum of 6 years but can't defend myself,
seems kinda crazy,
what are your views,
natt
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:32 pm
by seamusTX
Please don't do anything rash.
Did you buy the pistol from an FFL dealer? If so, it sounds like you have the correct status to own a firearm under fedeal law. They usually err on the side of caution.
If you're not eligible for a CHL, you might want to look into the NRA Personal Protection in the Home course, or something similar.
[Later] You can defend yourself. For that matter, an illegal alien can legally defend himself.
As far as being legally permitted to own firearms, the U.S. probably has the most permissive laws for non-citizens in the world.
- Jim
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:34 pm
by fadlan12
If its legal for you to own one, you can have it at home. Read up on the new laws going into effect in Sept you don't have to have a chl to own a gun.
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:35 pm
by texasnatt
thanks for that,
i'll probably do as many courses as i can,
they can't do any harm,
natt
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 3:51 pm
by G.A. Heath
There is a type of SSN for those who can not work. The Social Security Cards for these numbers have something to the effect of "Not for employment." Where I work we have a large German Mennonite community which has people of every immigration status imaginable. We frequently find these cards when people are looking for work, unfortunately these people are either unwilling or unable to get their status changed so we can hire them.
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 3:54 pm
by texasnatt
thanks for that, i'll look into it,
our immigration lawyer was rubbish,
he was really good at taking our money but thats all he was good at,
natt
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 5:17 pm
by gregthehand
Sad that here you are doing things the right legal way and waiting your turn while or politicians want to just let 12 million + cut right in front of you..

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 5:33 pm
by Fosforos
The CHL class doesn't really teach you shooting skills, it's mostly a class in legal matters. I feel your pain, being an immigrant myself. It took me a long time to figure out that I CAN both purchase a firearms and get a CHL (of course, my residency status is different and I do have a SSN).
I'm sure you can obtain all the training you want, even if you are barred from a CHL.
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 8:50 pm
by texasnatt
mmm,
i thought chl would be lots of practical training,
i think i'd be better off just going on some pistol courses then,
thanks for all the replies,
and thanks for the kind words gregthehand,
natt