30.06 sign but no 30.07
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30.06 sign but no 30.07
The 30.06 sign reads - "Pursuant to Section 30.06, Penal Code (trespass by license holder with a concealed handgun), a person licensed under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code (handgun licensing law), may not enter this property with a concealed handgun."
If there's no 30.07 sign, would this mean that you could open carry into that same establishment ? The gun is no longer concealed.
If there's no 30.07 sign, would this mean that you could open carry into that same establishment ? The gun is no longer concealed.
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Or you could enter with a partially visible handgun - with say part of the grip or muzzle showing.EdnaBambrick wrote:The 30.06 sign reads - "Pursuant to Section 30.06, Penal Code (trespass by license holder with a concealed handgun), a person licensed under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code (handgun licensing law), may not enter this property with a concealed handgun."
If there's no 30.07 sign, would this mean that you could open carry into that same establishment ? The gun is no longer concealed.
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Yes, you *could* enter said establishment open carrying. You'll most likely be told by employee/management ( or police called by aforementioned )that no guns are allowed, and will be required to immediately leave. I believe the majority of us here would suggest that you simply take your business elsewhere.
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And if you do enter open carrying and are told "you can't wear that in here", that will mean that you are for eternity banned from carrying on any property owned by that store, or any store with any shareholders in common with that store, even if you are later told that it's OK by the board of directors via a shareholder resolution...and public stockholder vote. You will be placed in FBI and TX DPS "rap back" system and your membership to Costco will be canceled for cause and your picture posted at the Post Office....and you will never be able to get a DoD security clearance or work at a refinery or chemical plant... and your CDL and TWIC will be revoked....
...or so I've heard.![Shocked :shock:](./images/smilies/icon_eek.gif)
...or so I've heard.
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Re: 30.06 sign but no 30.07
Don't forget that you may also have to TAKE THE RIDE!!!!!! even if you beat the rap.ScottDLS wrote:And if you do enter open carrying and are told "you can't wear that in here", that will mean that you are for eternity banned from carrying on any property owned by that store, or any store with any shareholders in common with that store, even if you are later told that it's OK by the board of directors via a shareholder resolution...and public stockholder vote. You will be placed in FBI and TX DPS "rap back" system and your membership to Costco will be canceled for cause and your picture posted at the Post Office....and you will never be able to get a DoD security clearance or work at a refinery or chemical plant... and your CDL and TWIC will be revoked....
...or so I've heard.
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I have to disagree with the "take a ride" statement. If we are a society of laws, and we agree words mean what they say - these signs posted are Texas law created by our elected officials - and hence mean exactly what is intended and no more, then I see no reason why you can't legally OC. Might they ask you to leave? Of course. But you would certainly be legal OCing and I doubt you'd be harassed by LEO.
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This is ridiculous and old!ScottDLS wrote:And if you do enter open carrying and are told "you can't wear that in here", that will mean that you are for eternity banned from carrying on any property owned by that store, or any store with any shareholders in common with that store, even if you are later told that it's OK by the board of directors via a shareholder resolution...and public stockholder vote. You will be placed in FBI and TX DPS "rap back" system and your membership to Costco will be canceled for cause and your picture posted at the Post Office....and you will never be able to get a DoD security clearance or work at a refinery or chemical plant... and your CDL and TWIC will be revoked....
...or so I've heard.
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Yet we see it repeated....(at least the first line) regularly.mojo84 wrote:This is ridiculous and old!ScottDLS wrote:And if you do enter open carrying and are told "you can't wear that in here", that will mean that you are for eternity banned from carrying on any property owned by that store, or any store with any shareholders in common with that store, even if you are later told that it's OK by the board of directors via a shareholder resolution...and public stockholder vote. You will be placed in FBI and TX DPS "rap back" system and your membership to Costco will be canceled for cause and your picture posted at the Post Office....and you will never be able to get a DoD security clearance or work at a refinery or chemical plant... and your CDL and TWIC will be revoked....
...or so I've heard.
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And to be fair the the original question. YES you can legally OPEN carry into a business with only a 30.06 sign, until the owner or someone with apparent authority to act for the owner informs you orally, or via specific written communication, that you cannot.
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What one can arguably get away with and what is a good idea are seldom the same thing.
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Maybe I am just naive but would just abide by what isposted and carry in concealed.
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So intentionally ignore the sign?Peaces wrote:Maybe I am just naive but would just abide by what isposted and carry in concealed.
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You may want to refresh your understanding of the meaning of the signs.Peaces wrote:Maybe I am just naive but would just abide by what isposted and carry in concealed.
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Thanks for setting me straight. I thought 30.06 allowed for conceal. I was wrong.
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KLB wrote:What one can arguably get away with and what is a good idea are seldom the same thing.
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You should not try to carry concealed because that would be wrong, even if you could get away with it.
Just make sure that a part of your gun is not concealed when you carry past this sign.