Economy: Emergent problems for CHL holders

[Frost]

Thanks for the heads up but you might want to check the language. And also give a warning if there is such language contained in the link.

Oops, i removed it

I know I am not going to allow some one to touch me and if it is around the weapon area you can bet there will be agressive actions taken.

What if its the elderly greeter harassing you?

[03Lightningrocks]

It's funny to me that this thread has posted now.

I had a very similar thing happen to me yesterday. I'm not carrying yet cuz I haven't received my plastic, however....
I walked out of my local Tom Thumb after purchasing a bag of sugar that the wife forgot on her previous day's trip.
I went through the self check out.

I didn't throw it in a bag cuz it was only one one item. On my way out the door, the rent a cop says, "They're calling you inside".
I think about it for a second and say "I've got everything I need. I don't need to go back inside". He asks if I have a receipt (Not really even knowing what's up, but assuming they're asking me back in because I stole it).

I again say, "No thanks" and go to my car. As I'm pulling out I see him in my mirror running toward my car and I think about just hitting the gas, but curiosity and just plain anger are getting the better of me at this point. I role down my window and he hands me the 5 dollars I left inside in the change slot.

Thank you sir, have a nice day.

That would be embarrassing.

[glocklvr]

A few yrs ago after knee surgery I was limited to wearing wind pants with no pockets due to the thick bandage on my leg and was forced to carry my keys, gun, wallet, etc in a fanny pack. I went into 7-11 on crutches for a 12 pack of dr pepper the clerk asked me to leave my fanny pack on the counter and when I refused due to multiple reasons (gun and principal of the issue being the main reasons) she ordered me to leave saying that only potential shop lifters would have a problem with that policy. I told her it would be a very cold day somewhere before I went into another 7-11 and left never to return.

[Wildscar]

Thanks for the heads up but you might want to check the language. And also give a warning if there is such language contained in the link.

Oops, i removed it

I know I am not going to allow some one to touch me and if it is around the weapon area you can bet there will be agressive actions taken.

What if its the elderly greeter harassing you?

He/She would still get the compulsive hand slap and possible push off. After that it would be up to them. But I would be on the phone with 911.

[jimlongley]

A friend told me of an experience he had at the Home Depot on Lemmon in Dallas a while back (just before Christmas 2008). He bought a $300 kitchen faucet and as he exited the store the alarm went off. He turned back toward the checkout so as to resolve the issue and a woman (who he assumed was either the head cashier or manager on duty) came up to him. He showed her the receipt and bag but she really didn't look at it. Instead, she apologized, handed him a small envelope and motioned for him to go ahead and exit. He figured the envelope was a coupon or survey. But when he opened it, he found a $20 gift card in a specially prepared apology card that specifically addressed the type of incident that had just occurred. I have since learned that this is/was a store specific policy/experiment. The manager at my local Home Depot said he had heard of it at a district meeting but that it was too difficult a policy to administer fairly at his store.

I work at a Home Depot and we have more false alarms than you can imagine. These days all of the cashiers are very senitive to the alarms and can usually tell the customer to go ahead without any delay.

The other day I was standing near a cashier station and a customer walked away without about half of her purchase, so I followed her out to the parking lot to return it to her. The chase that ensued needed to be caught on camera.

As I came out the door I tried to get her attention, about 30 or 40 feet away, by calling "Ma'am!" a couple of times. Now I don't know if she thought I was trying to make a pass, or if she was feeling guilty about something, but after only a quick glance, she veered off in a different direction and speeded up.

She went up one row of parked cars, cut across, and then back down to where her car was, where she was headed in the first place, having gained a little on me. All the while I'm shouting "Ma'am!" and now attracting the attention of everyone in the parking lot. Another shopper kind of stopped her as she threw her stuff in her car, just held his hand out and said something I couldn't hear to her, at which point she turned and faced me.

The look in her eyes told me that she was very fearful of me, so I just held out her abandoned bag and said "I thought you might want this." and turned and walked away as soon as she took it.

I have tracked down a few customers who left stuff behind but that was the first time I had to chase one. Usually I get a chance to chat with them, give them my card, and thank them for shopping at Home Depot and putting food on my tabe, but this one I could tell didn't want to talk.

[Bob Landry]

More and more retail stores are checking receipts against the number of items. They have to prevent loss just like everyone else. I guess you can play bad-ass and say I'm not going to do this and that, blah, blah, blah, but it's just as easy to do it than hold everything up and just take longer to accomplish the same end. That would be getting out of the store. If he thinks you are carrying a weapon and wants to see it, ask if he is a commisioned peace officer. if he says no, then you aren't required to show anything. You aren't trespassing because you are leaving anyway. No law broken, no problem.

[Purplehood]

I had a strange incident leaving the local Wal-Mart the other day.

As I was leaving the obligatory elderly lady approached and asked to see my receipt for my cartload of goods. I handed it over and watched her carefully peruse each item on the receipt line by line, without ever once glancing at the contents of the cart.

She then stopped at one particular item and asked, "Where are the earrings"? I looked at my ex-wife with a confused look as the earrings were being purchased among other things for a teenaged niece and might have cost a maximum of five dollars, if that high. The lady started pawing through the mulititude of bags and I looked at her and told her that I didn't have the faintest idea which bag they might be in. She shrugged, handed me the receipt and we left.

I only remembered the incident because of this post...

[hheremtp]

I had a strange incident leaving the local Wal-Mart the other day.

As I was leaving the obligatory elderly lady approached and asked to see my receipt for my cartload of goods. I handed it over and watched her carefully peruse each item on the receipt line by line, without ever once glancing at the contents of the cart.

She then stopped at one particular item and asked, "Where are the earrings"? I looked at my ex-wife with a confused look as the earrings were being purchased among other things for a teenaged niece and might have cost a maximum of five dollars, if that high. The lady started pawing through the mulititude of bags and I looked at her and told her that I didn't have the faintest idea which bag they might be in. She shrugged, handed me the receipt and we left.

I only remembered the incident because of this post...

My question is why would it matter where the earrings were, if it's on the receipt you obviously paid for them!

[Purplehood]

I had a strange incident leaving the local Wal-Mart the other day.

As I was leaving the obligatory elderly lady approached and asked to see my receipt for my cartload of goods. I handed it over and watched her carefully peruse each item on the receipt line by line, without ever once glancing at the contents of the cart.

She then stopped at one particular item and asked, "Where are the earrings"? I looked at my ex-wife with a confused look as the earrings were being purchased among other things for a teenaged niece and might have cost a maximum of five dollars, if that high. The lady started pawing through the mulititude of bags and I looked at her and told her that I didn't have the faintest idea which bag they might be in. She shrugged, handed me the receipt and we left.

I only remembered the incident because of this post...

My question is why would it matter where the earrings were, if it's on the receipt you obviously paid for them!

[jeeperbryan]

I had a strange incident leaving the local Wal-Mart the other day.

As I was leaving the obligatory elderly lady approached and asked to see my receipt for my cartload of goods. I handed it over and watched her carefully peruse each item on the receipt line by line, without ever once glancing at the contents of the cart.

She then stopped at one particular item and asked, "Where are the earrings"? I looked at my ex-wife with a confused look as the earrings were being purchased among other things for a teenaged niece and might have cost a maximum of five dollars, if that high. The lady started pawing through the mulititude of bags and I looked at her and told her that I didn't have the faintest idea which bag they might be in. She shrugged, handed me the receipt and we left.

I only remembered the incident because of this post...

You should have replied "Where's Waldo?"

[CrimsonSoul]

A friend told me of an experience he had at the Home Depot on Lemmon in Dallas a while back (just before Christmas 2008). He bought a $300 kitchen faucet and as he exited the store the alarm went off. He turned back toward the checkout so as to resolve the issue and a woman (who he assumed was either the head cashier or manager on duty) came up to him. He showed her the receipt and bag but she really didn't look at it. Instead, she apologized, handed him a small envelope and motioned for him to go ahead and exit. He figured the envelope was a coupon or survey. But when he opened it, he found a $20 gift card in a specially prepared apology card that specifically addressed the type of incident that had just occurred. I have since learned that this is/was a store specific policy/experiment. The manager at my local Home Depot said he had heard of it at a district meeting but that it was too difficult a policy to administer fairly at his store.

I'd shop there again

[phoneguy]

A friend told me of an experience he had at the Home Depot on Lemmon in Dallas a while back (just before Christmas 2008). He bought a $300 kitchen faucet and as he exited the store the alarm went off. He turned back toward the checkout so as to resolve the issue and a woman (who he assumed was either the head cashier or manager on duty) came up to him. He showed her the receipt and bag but she really didn't look at it. Instead, she apologized, handed him a small envelope and motioned for him to go ahead and exit. He figured the envelope was a coupon or survey. But when he opened it, he found a $20 gift card in a specially prepared apology card that specifically addressed the type of incident that had just occurred. I have since learned that this is/was a store specific policy/experiment. The manager at my local Home Depot said he had heard of it at a district meeting but that it was too difficult a policy to administer fairly at his store.

I'd shop there again

When I worked at Home Depot in Massachusetts in 2001, (and I've seen it here too), display merchandise is oven stacked VERY close to the entrance door, one accidental shove and those alarms are constantly going off. We were trained to log the time, reset the alarm and look for anyone looking like they were making a hasty exit.

As to the Wal-Mart greeter and the earrings, price tag switching is a very common retail theft scheme. Swap a 5 dollar price tag on a 50 dollar item. Not saying the greeter was in the right to ask, just explaining a possible motivation.

[HankB]

At the Fry's in Austin, the receipt checker sort of stands there as if he/she expects people to stop. I just walk by with my (bagged) purchase, and they just ignore me.

Several years ago at the now-defunct CompUSA, the store was crowded (sale day) and they had ONE checker at the exit . . . and people were meekly waiting in line to be checked!

I simply walked around the line with my purchase . . . the checker told me he needed to check the receipt, so I said "HERE" and held out the bag . . . he told me I needed to wait in line. I declined . . . after quietly informing him that having waited in one line to pay for my purchase, I sure as heck wasn't going to wait in another for HIS permission to leave - and anyone who did was an idiot.

I then simply walked out . . . followed by at least half the people in the line who I suppose I provided a little inspiration to.

Several of them were less courteous than I was.

[Nintao]

I just avoid a potentially bad situation and show my receipt. Yeah I do not agree with that, but especially now having my CHL and carrying 99% of the time, I would rather show that piece of paper then start a bad situation. Let say you refuse when asked to show your receipt and get blocked by several people... then say one of those people draws a weapon, then things get out of hand and you end up drawing (and maybe firing). I would foresee a Judge who rules their courtroom saying "You should have just shown you receipt and this could have all been avoided".

I must say having my CHL has kept me from getting upset at many things. Being my motorcycle is my transportation I get to deal with idiots on the road on a level that drives (or should I say rides) me up the wall. Someone cutting me off could lead to a verbal match, then to a physical one, and then to a Smith & Wesson one. All the while I see myself getting arrested and that Judge telling me that being legally armed I should have avoided the situation all together. I can say too that I am much less stressed on a daily basis by not letting all the little things bother me.

jimlongley that reminds me of a similar time when pulling up to an ATM I found that the person in front of me had left their card in the machine. I grabbed it and rode up behind them before they left the parking lot waving and yelling at them. Perhaps it was the long hair, long goatee or the overall biker look that made the driver peel off frightened after seeing me... but my bike is way faster and when I pulled next to him waving his ATM card I could see the look of relief wash over his face. So sometimes who you think is a BG is in fact a GG :).

[ClarkLZeuss]

As I came out the door I tried to get her attention, about 30 or 40 feet away, by calling "Ma'am!" a couple of times. Now I don't know if she thought I was trying to make a pass, or if she was feeling guilty about something, but after only a quick glance, she veered off in a different direction and speeded up.

You know, it's one of my secret phobias that one day I'll unknowingly become a kleptomaniac. I guess it goes back to that time when I was 6 and I accidentally walked out of an Albertson's with a copy of "La Bamba" without paying for it. Good thing my mom noticed.