vehicle search by employer??
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You could only sue them if they did something pretty stupid. You would just be fired and told to leave.
It can happen here.
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The funny thing is, they do stupid things quite often. Usually it's mall ninjas trying to apprehend suspected shoplifters who are innocent.Frost wrote:You could only sue them if they did something pretty stupid.
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Re: vehicle search by employer??
An emplloyer generally speaking cannot search your vehicle. Now there are exceptions. If your employee handbook states that the employer has the right to search AND this was disclosed prior to you accepting employment the employer MIGHT have grounds to search, though most employers are very cautious on doing so.
If your employer has the parking lot posted that any vehicle entering the premises is subject to search, then by entering you have given your consent to search. This has gone both ways when contested.
Many employers use dogs to search the parking lot. Then when the dog hits on drugs or weapons then the employer will ask you to search the car. Refusal typically means you no longer work there.
My employer takes a if we dont see it, it aint there approach. Though weapons are banned, as long it is not in plain view or as long as no one complains that they know you have one, we dont go looking. However, having one will get you in deep doo doo real fast.
Bottom line is simple, if you have one, and your employer bans it, keep it concealed and keep it quiet. Remember, a secret is only a secret if two people know it and one of them is dead.
If your employer has the parking lot posted that any vehicle entering the premises is subject to search, then by entering you have given your consent to search. This has gone both ways when contested.
Many employers use dogs to search the parking lot. Then when the dog hits on drugs or weapons then the employer will ask you to search the car. Refusal typically means you no longer work there.
My employer takes a if we dont see it, it aint there approach. Though weapons are banned, as long it is not in plain view or as long as no one complains that they know you have one, we dont go looking. However, having one will get you in deep doo doo real fast.
Bottom line is simple, if you have one, and your employer bans it, keep it concealed and keep it quiet. Remember, a secret is only a secret if two people know it and one of them is dead.
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I guess I've been sheltered from crazy corporate policies thus far... but since I'm just beginning a job search, I hope my fortune continues. At minimum, I'd be looking for an alternate lot or street parking.
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hahahaKevinf2349 wrote:At my place of work the dogs would probably not be able to smell anything past all the management horse pucky that is around anyway!Frost wrote:Some companies run dogs trained on gunpowder through the parking area.
FWIW, IIRC, AFAIK, FTMP, IANAL. YMMV.
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We have a "no firearms on premises" policy, but their is also a statement that says we can't do it unless we have specific permission to do so.
I asked for permission today. I mentioned that I had applied for my CHL and wanted permission to keep my pistol locked up in the car. I guess I'll have to wait and see if this was a mistake.
I asked for permission today. I mentioned that I had applied for my CHL and wanted permission to keep my pistol locked up in the car. I guess I'll have to wait and see if this was a mistake.
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Update to my previous post - we had our monthly company luncheon today, and it was announced to all employees that it was perfectly acceptable to have a firearm in your car in the company parking lot.
Another fine example of a Texas company using logic and clear-headed thinking.
Another fine example of a Texas company using logic and clear-headed thinking.
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jsimmons wrote:Update to my previous post - we had our monthly company luncheon today, and it was announced to all employees that it was perfectly acceptable to have a firearm in your car in the company parking lot.
Another fine example of a Texas company using logic and clear-headed thinking.
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Wow. Just wow.
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Do they need someone to sweep the floors...I'm good to go...jsimmons wrote:Update to my previous post - we had our monthly company luncheon today, and it was announced to all employees that it was perfectly acceptable to have a firearm in your car in the company parking lot.
Another fine example of a Texas company using logic and clear-headed thinking.
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The beauty of it is that I didn't even have to argue my case. They use the same definition for "premises" as does the state - "a building or any part thereof" - and which specifically excludes parking lots.
Apparently, since it was in the Employee Handbook, nobody ever thought to get permission until I came along. :)
There were a number of people in the audience that applauded the announcement, and before today, I only knew of at least two other people in the company that are outspoken friends of the 2nd amendment. It looks like there are actually a lot more than just the three of us.
Apparently, since it was in the Employee Handbook, nobody ever thought to get permission until I came along. :)
There were a number of people in the audience that applauded the announcement, and before today, I only knew of at least two other people in the company that are outspoken friends of the 2nd amendment. It looks like there are actually a lot more than just the three of us.
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THAT IS AWESOME!
"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every country in Europe."
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"All we ask for is registration, just like we do for cars."
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Jsimmons, I wish my employer would take that tact. The nice neighborhoods we build railroads in back in 1900 aint so nice anymore/
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I honestly didn't know how it was going to turn out. The worst thing that could have happened would have been that they become unreasonably alarmed and just fire me, simply say "no", or do what they did and announce that it was allowed. I guess you could say I got lucky. :)dac1842 wrote:Jsimmons, I wish my employer would take that tact. The nice neighborhoods we build railroads in back in 1900 aint so nice anymore/
BTW, this is the 2nd company in a row that I've worked for that allowed firearms in the company parking lot. Al least half of the employees had CHLs. The other company even allowed licensed concealed carry in the building until certain things happened that caused the company to go out of business. People were actually afraid of what the owner (who had a CHL) might do, so the CEO put up the 30.06 signs shortly before they went under.
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You could always say that you keep rolls of quarters in your safe for tolls etc. I've got one of these in every car.stevie_d_64 wrote:Get you a safe that can be bolted down or secured in a way that locks "it" up, and "it" can only be accessed by combination or a separate key, from your "normal" keyring...C-dub wrote:The company can do it because, in most cases, the employees have given them permission. Most of the time the company will have us read and sign a letter stating that we are aware of their policy and we give them permission to search our vehicles. This is usually a condition of employment.
"What??? Oh that, yeah...I don't have the key for that "in hand"...I can come back tomorrow and have the key to open it then."
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