To Chamber or not to Chamber?
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For the record, there is absolutely no way anyone can draw a 1911 from a strong-side concealed carry, manually cock the hammer, and fire as quickly as someone equally athletic and trained can draw, flip the safey, and shoot the gun as intended. Folks who train with 1911s train to pull them out of the holster with their thumbs already on the safety. That's one reason they dominate in the IPSC game: handled as intended, they are no slower to present than "safety-less" firearms like Glocks.[end quote]
I completely agree with your statement. I do compete IDPA C&L and am proficient in that as well. I am never planning on speed drawing, if the danger is that fast and close I waited too long anyway. Any action can be performed with a certain degree of safety and I dont cock or attempt to cock until almost on target. I could care less about milliseconds of time, I simply dont like C&L for daily carry much like I dont like striker pistols. It may be irrational but thats my way. I work on my own pistols, under watch from a highly qualified gunsmith, and I know the sear, safeties, etc are unlikely to fail but I just dont want it C&L for daily carry. I have also said i would carry C&L if a LEO or when I go to bad parts of town (day or night) which unfortunately I have to do for work. Speaking of the collection, I have picked up several more 1911's I need to show off soon! Kimber DW, Kimber hicap, Springfield Blackened SS Loaded, 2 6 incher full customs, etc.
For the record, there is absolutely no way anyone can draw a 1911 from a strong-side concealed carry, manually cock the hammer, and fire as quickly as someone equally athletic and trained can draw, flip the safey, and shoot the gun as intended. Folks who train with 1911s train to pull them out of the holster with their thumbs already on the safety. That's one reason they dominate in the IPSC game: handled as intended, they are no slower to present than "safety-less" firearms like Glocks.[end quote]
I completely agree with your statement. I do compete IDPA C&L and am proficient in that as well. I am never planning on speed drawing, if the danger is that fast and close I waited too long anyway. Any action can be performed with a certain degree of safety and I dont cock or attempt to cock until almost on target. I could care less about milliseconds of time, I simply dont like C&L for daily carry much like I dont like striker pistols. It may be irrational but thats my way. I work on my own pistols, under watch from a highly qualified gunsmith, and I know the sear, safeties, etc are unlikely to fail but I just dont want it C&L for daily carry. I have also said i would carry C&L if a LEO or when I go to bad parts of town (day or night) which unfortunately I have to do for work. Speaking of the collection, I have picked up several more 1911's I need to show off soon! Kimber DW, Kimber hicap, Springfield Blackened SS Loaded, 2 6 incher full customs, etc.
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Gotcha. It was the fact that I know what a connoisseur you are that caught me a little off-guard. As for new additions to your already-healthy stock in the safes, I think I speak for all of us when I say: "Pictures!"rm9792 wrote:I work on my own pistols, under watch from a highly qualified gunsmith, and I know the sear, safeties, etc are unlikely to fail but I just dont want it C&L for daily carry... Speaking of the collection, I have picked up several more 1911's I need to show off soon! Kimber DW, Kimber hicap, Springfield Blackened SS Loaded, 2 6 incher full customs, etc.
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For Skiprr:
Combined 2 to make the Hicap Pro CDP and carry that almost exclusively now. 13+1 of .45 JHP is hard to beat.
Got the Loaded Blackened SS in an AR trade.
I like the HK and .50GI but they are awful bulky and heavy. The 6" is a tack driver but too long to carry except in winter.
Combined 2 to make the Hicap Pro CDP and carry that almost exclusively now. 13+1 of .45 JHP is hard to beat.
Got the Loaded Blackened SS in an AR trade.
I like the HK and .50GI but they are awful bulky and heavy. The 6" is a tack driver but too long to carry except in winter.
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We're gonna get way off topic if I ask any questions, so I'll send ya a PM. But if I'm correct, all these are new additions within the past year, right?
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I think the topic has been but you can PM. only 5 are in the last year. No will, I am being buried with all of them, the way I have lived I am gonna need some firepower in my new location.
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Seems like this debate is always dominated by the 1911 and striker-fired pistols-with-safeties aficianados. But for day-in and day-out field carry of a semi automatic handgun, the time proven DA/SA pistol with a decocker is hard to beat when it comes down a combination of safety and speed.
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This thread has been going on since December 19, 2007! We should have had a birthday party for it.casingpoint wrote:Seems like this debate is always dominated by the 1911 and striker-fired pistols-with-safeties aficianados. But for day-in and day-out field carry of a semi automatic handgun, the time proven DA/SA pistol with a decocker is hard to beat when it comes down a combination of safety and speed.
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How about a funeral? Because it passed its "best used by" date a long time ago.WildBill wrote:This thread has been going on since December 19, 2007! We should have had a birthday party for it.
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But, with a birthday party we get ice cream and cake.seamusTX wrote:How about a funeral? Because it passed its "best used by" date a long time ago.WildBill wrote:This thread has been going on since December 19, 2007! We should have had a birthday party for it.
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With a wake we getWildBill wrote:But, with a birthday party we get ice cream and cake.
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juggernaut wrote:With a wake we getWildBill wrote:But, with a birthday party we get ice cream and cake.
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We need video or it didn't happen!!!atxgun wrote:I had the same concern and did the same thing as Seamus and quickly become confident of what you always here "guns don't go off by themselves". Well I probably didn't do everything as Seamus as I don't have my plastic yet, but did as much running around and getting in worrisome positions in my apt as possible.
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Funny...when I responded on this thread, I had no idea it was that old.
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rm9792....I am jealous of your collection. All I can say is WOW!!! Well done!!!
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I see it as an investment, my collection has held and increased its value as opposed to 401k, houses, or even earning interest. I can liquidate a pistol in a day or two if cash is ever needed. (usually to buy another pistol!).03Lightningrocks wrote:rm9792....I am jealous of your collection. All I can say is WOW!!! Well done!!!