There is fighting , and there is "street" fighting.karder wrote: Beyond that, I know a lot of very high ranking black belts who have studied their arts for many years, and know the technique backward and forward, but couldn't fight their way out of a coat closet. I have known only a tiny fraction of practitioners who I would actually consider serious fighters. I greatly respect the martial arts and believe that there is great value in serious study, but all the "human weapon" stuff the greatly over blown.
Martial Arts As Deadly Force vs. CHL??
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I think it all boils down to disparity of force, whether you know martial arts or not. I agree with chabouk though, that I'd much rather go up against a guy who has a black belt from competing in Tae Kwon Do tournaments, rather than some guy who has no belt but has been fighting mixed martial arts. One is definitely a sport, the other is more a structured brawl.
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literal humor hath no place in a figurative discussionLarryH wrote:Charlie Daniels?austinrealtor wrote:For instance, has anyone every actually seen a person who has BOTH long hair and a red neck? Seems to be mutually exclusive character traits to me
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Me?LarryH wrote:Charlie Daniels?austinrealtor wrote:For instance, has anyone every actually seen a person who has BOTH long hair and a red neck? Seems to be mutually exclusive character traits to me
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Not at all. I remember this being talked about in my CHL class. The Ninja has to be within a certain perimeter but would be considered no different then being armed in the court of law. Shoot the NinjaLongHairedRedneck wrote:
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Reminds me of the Indiana Jones movie where the big guy is swinging the sword and Indy shoots him.handog wrote:Not at all. I remember this being talked about in my CHL class. The Ninja has to be within a certain perimeter but would be considered no different then being armed in the court of law. Shoot the NinjaLongHairedRedneck wrote:
Guess I just made a fool of myself.......
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Woa there! Don't you know Ninja's are armed with special "secret" weapons?? Here's the proof......handog wrote: Not at all. I remember this being talked about in my CHL class. The Ninja has to be within a certain perimeter but would be considered no different then being armed in the court of law. Shoot the Ninja
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"illuminated mildot holographic red dot"G26ster wrote:Woa there! Don't you know Ninja's are armed with special "secret" weapons?? Here's the proof......handog wrote: Not at all. I remember this being talked about in my CHL class. The Ninja has to be within a certain perimeter but would be considered no different then being armed in the court of law. Shoot the Ninja
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Somehow I feel this quote will enter the lexicon on this forum. I'll help it along by placing it in my sig linehandog wrote:Shoot the Ninja
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I do have some background on this so for what's it's worth here's my .02 cents.....
I'm certified 2nd degree black belt, I also carry. I know from my own experiences that a hand-to-hand anything is no match for anyone who is remotely proficient with a firearm (I suspect everyone who reads this forum intuitively knows that). I have had advance training for situations if you were confronted by someone with a handgun. We fully realize the difficulties and risks associated in such circumstances but the training is designed to provide some level of knowledge of at least what may be possible in a situation where you believe you have no other option.
Also, there is absolutely no law requiring notice of anytype for any matrial arts training you may have had at any level. No one I know and have trained with would ever provide any advanced "warning" if they felt they were going to defend themselves. In this regard I dont believe that would be any different than if you were in a situation where you felt you needed to draw your firearm, you'd give no notice either.
If you're confronted by someone that you believe is going to be a physical threat the best thing you can do is keep distance between yourself and the threat, 8 feet or more if possible. An determined attacker can close 8 feet very fast, so be prepared to move back quickly if needed in order to maintiain your distance, and don't hesitate. You want to at least have time to draw if needed.
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I'm certified 2nd degree black belt, I also carry. I know from my own experiences that a hand-to-hand anything is no match for anyone who is remotely proficient with a firearm (I suspect everyone who reads this forum intuitively knows that). I have had advance training for situations if you were confronted by someone with a handgun. We fully realize the difficulties and risks associated in such circumstances but the training is designed to provide some level of knowledge of at least what may be possible in a situation where you believe you have no other option.
Also, there is absolutely no law requiring notice of anytype for any matrial arts training you may have had at any level. No one I know and have trained with would ever provide any advanced "warning" if they felt they were going to defend themselves. In this regard I dont believe that would be any different than if you were in a situation where you felt you needed to draw your firearm, you'd give no notice either.
If you're confronted by someone that you believe is going to be a physical threat the best thing you can do is keep distance between yourself and the threat, 8 feet or more if possible. An determined attacker can close 8 feet very fast, so be prepared to move back quickly if needed in order to maintiain your distance, and don't hesitate. You want to at least have time to draw if needed.
Be aware and be safe!
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According to this ninja if his hands are in his pockets they're considered concealed weapons.......
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I heard this myth a LONG time ago... somebody's friend had to register their hands and feet as deadly weapons etc.
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Somewhere, I have a pic of Thane from before he was accepted into the BP academy....austinrealtor wrote:And to the OP, don't sweat it. We all get duped some times. For instance, has anyone every actually seen a person who has BOTH long hair and a red neck? Seems to be mutually exclusive character traits to me
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All guns have at least two safeties. One's digital, one's cognitive. In other words - keep the digit off the trigger until ready to fire, and THINK. Some guns also have mechanical safeties on top of those. But if the first two don't work, the mechanical ones aren't guaranteed. - me