Guns around the house

[PUCKER]

Here's a thought for hiding the guns "in plain sight" if you will:

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[wgoforth]

Here's a thought for hiding the guns "in plain sight" if you will:

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This is what we have in one room..and a whole lot cheaper. BTW, the clock mechanism is poor and a lot of complaints, but easily replaceable with a $6 mechanism from Hobby Lobby. The clock is actually quite attractive even apart from the safe feature,

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[SigOperator02]

We do have a alarm system from the house that I can access on line with cameras, if there is a problem. I just feel bad for the poor slob that tries to break into the house because of Thor & Zesus, our two male Caucasian Ovcharkas. They both weigh about 210 and are basically roaming lions in the house. They know who is suppose to be there and who needs to get out. They do wonders by keeping the Mormans & JW's from our door on Saturdays. You can throw food they want but "The Boys" are coming for the Tango. There breed is known for their powerful guarding instincts. Everything and everyone who belongs to the family, including children, cats, other dogs, etc. will be thought by these dogs as part of its family and as such will fall under its guardianship. They were used by the East Germans as partol dogs. If someone brakes in, chances are I don't have to feed them for about two days.

[terryg]

I was having a discussion with some of my good friends about having some guns around the house. The idea that I threw out there is that I wanted to put some guns around the house in key areas of defense in my house. Places that would give me cover in the house in case the Tango was able to get some shoots off. They would be hidden and there are no children in the home so I'm really not that worried about putting locks on them. Do y'all think that this a bad idea or does it need some work? I would thankful for the feedback.

I have also considered this - especially as we have a two story. But as I do have children in the home, it would require multiple quick access safes.

I don't know your family situation, so keeping them unsecured may be acceptable for you. But that is the main concern that comes to my mind. I am I stickler about children and unsecured weapons. In fact, I think it ought to be the 'fifth rule' of the 'four rules'.

So if there is even the slightest possibility of nieces, nephews, grandkids, neighborhood kids - any kid at all - being in your house - then I would advise you to have each of them in a safe if they are not on your person. No location is hidden enough to keep it from hands a child.

Just my .02 cents.

[SigOperator02]

TerryG, I with you on that completely. In a later post I do mention that I wanted them in biometric safes. We don't have any kids and there are none in our Sub-divison. I just got a nephew this monday but he has a long way to go before he starts crawling in my house.

[terryg]

TerryG, I with you on that completely. In a later post I do mention that I wanted them in biometric safes. We don't have any kids and there are none in our Sub-divison. I just got a nephew this monday but he has a long way to go before he starts crawling in my house.

I actually saw that post, but I couldn't tell if you were saying that they are in biometric safes now but are thinking about hiding some of them elsewhere -or- if you hiding plans included the safes.

Okay let me first clear up some missing infomation from the above stated scenario that we have been discussing. The three guns that I want strategically placed in defensive places of the home that are in biometric gunsafes.

So I posted it just to be sure. I am glad you are thinking about it! I have had the hardest time getting this message through to some of my relatives ...

[InfoTechCHL2007]

Good idea or not, I knew a physician who did the same thing. So, you're not alone in your thinking.

[texasjeep44]

The problem I have with leaving guns around the house, assuming one doesn't have children or other irresponsible people in the home, is if your home is ever burglarized they are pretty sure to relieve you of your weapons. Most burglaries take about 5 to 10 minutes total before they are out of there, but in that time, they are certain to find at least some of your guns.

This is bad for several reason. LEO's responding the the call, or alarm are arriving on a scene where a thief is now armed. If you come home and they are in the house, they are armed with your gun against your. If no one shows up during the burglary the crooks are now leaving your house with guns to either use next time they break in somewhere or to sell to other crooks to use in crimes someplace else.

If your at your home, keep the gun on you just like you do when your carrying in public. If not keep it locked up in a quick access safe that isn't easy to cart off. If the safe isn't bolted down they will just walk out with the entire thing and open it someplace else.

Leaving guns "hidden" around the home isn't the best scenario in my opinion.

[Grammy]

Can't speak for other folks here, but I have no children and I am very aware when we have people over. I have a 12 gage pistol grip shotgun at the ready in the bedroom and a .45 not far behind. In the living room, where we spend most of our time I have another weapon stratigicly placed for ease of access should the need for it arise.

I had foot surgery months back and was staying in the living room, with no means to move anywhere quickly, in my big easy chair for ease of access to the bathroom and kitchen. I'm a bad patient, would rather not have people "wait" on me, and in the middle of the night I heard something, could have been a dog, coon, deer who knows. I am sitting in my chair 20 feet from 2 sidelights and a full glass front door between me and what ever is outside, talk about feel venerable. After that night promised myself I would not be in that situation again.

May not work for everyone but it works for me with my situation.

Just some thoughts...
Jim

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[SigOperator02]

I have been reading several posts to my scenario that I asked and I understand that most but not all are leary of leaving secured guns around your home because of having children, irresponsible friends or the intruder that makes it in. That is your choice but with that being said, you are not always going to be carrying in your home and your not always going to be right by your shotgun, pistol or carbine that you keep by the nightstand. You possibly should look into biometric safes that are small, portable and easy to conceal. I have a couple and they work really well with getting fast access to my stored fireams. I have them placed in concealled placees where not even my wife has ever thought to look. If you used your imagination, I'm sure could find some place to stash a secured firearm in a portable safe.

[dehalter]

I'd say one on your hip should suffice.

I don't have my CHL yet (I turn 21 this month) but carry on my belt while I'm at home. At night it's on my nightstand and my shotgun's next to the bed.

I think putting guns around the house, kids or not, is irresponsible. Guests or invaders could happen upon them. I'm not worried about guests so much as invaders, simply because our friends are gun educated and know that if there's a firearm in our house, it is LOADED (even if it's not).

I can't shake the thought of a home invader shooting me with my own gun because I inadvertently armed him with it by leaving it in a "strategic" location.

I'm thinking more of a scenario in which, say, you're asleep or in your bedroom. An intruder is pillaging through your stuff and finds a gun. Now they're armed (if they weren't before) and you have no idea until they barge into the bedroom.

randomoutburst, while I appreciate your point of view, I must disagree. If you hide your guns properly, there is no issue. If you are handy with "interior decorating" you should be able to hide guns all over the place. In my house I have several guns hidden.

I have had many friends come to my house and have asked them to look for the "hidden weapon". There was a small prize for finding the "loaded gun". After they could not find them, I even told them what room they were in. They could still not find my weapons.

These are secrete locations built into the house. I have also done the same to my trucks.

If you are not handy with tools to do this there are other options:

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(God bless the NRA)!!!

There are also many wall safes that you can hang a picture over.

So be safe and congrats to making to (almost) 21. Good luck and I hope you get your CHL.

[Afff_667]

Tango? Seriously?

I guess I'm missing something here...no disrespect. It seems like the OP is trying to "solve" a problem that doesn't need to exist in the first place. Carry when you're at home, sidearm and one spare mag...problem solved. Keep your home secure, especially when you're there. It sounds like your dogs help out with that and would buy you the time needed to get to a weapon should the need arise and you opt to keep it off your body and elsewhere when at home. Anything you use to store the weapon, biometric safe, wall safes, false clocks, drawers, etc, is going to slow down your access...you're simply not going to be as fast to a hiding place as you are to your waist or even ankle.

On the second point and assuming you're using semiautomatic handguns, I'm not sure transitioning from one weapon to another, especially one you have to get from another location, would be quicker than simply clearing the malfunction...provided you know how to do it correctly, have practiced it to develop required muscle memory, and have a spare magazine on hand for the typical semiautomatic weapon malfunction. It is good to have a back-up if the primary becomes hopelessly jammed, but a modern, well-maintained semiautomatic weapon feeding reliable ammo from proven magazines should be good to go.

I realize the NY reload has its believers, but that's a term and technique from the days when revolvers were the primary carry weapons. Speedloaders can be slow, and I can easily imagine that drawing a second revolver would be a much faster and more reliable solution to an empty wheel gun.

Why would your wife not know where your weapons are concealed throughout the house? What if you're down? Is she simply on her own? "Spot the hidden gun" doesn't seem like much of a parlor game for the neighbors, either. Sorry, but there seems to be a question of mindset here.

I agree, Murphy does rear his ugly head and things can go into the toilet quickly...however, it might just be your time to go.

[terryg]

I have been reading several posts to my scenario that I asked and I understand that most but not all are leary of leaving secured guns around your home because of having children, irresponsible friends or the intruder that makes it in. That is your choice but with that being said, you are not always going to be carrying in your home and your not always going to be right by your shotgun, pistol or carbine that you keep by the nightstand. You possibly should look into biometric safes that are small, portable and easy to conceal. I have a couple and they work really well with getting fast access to my stored fireams. I have them placed in concealled placees where not even my wife has ever thought to look. If you used your imagination, I'm sure could find some place to stash a secured firearm in a portable safe.

I'm with you - I have considered burying quick access safes in the wall in certain locations to accomplish this.

[texasjeep44]

A couple additional thoughts for those that subcribe to hiding things in places folks would never think to look.

When your wife/friends or whomever are playing find the hidden treasure, they probably aren't tearing your house up to do it. A thief could care less what he destroys when he is looking for hidden valuables. The insurance company next to my office was just robbed last weekend, and the thiefs trashed the entire office, they did find the money and checks that were hidden.

I don't know how many have seen the series called It takes a thief, but it is quiet eye opening.

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[wally775]

Texasjeep44 is correct.
You can have all the treasure hunts you want and all it will really do is make you feel batter. Kids may miss it (the first time) pros will not.
The more you hide the more they look. Your house will be trashed and you stuff,
Small carry safes included, will be gone. They will look everywhere. Beds, freezer,
microwave, laundry( dirty and clean) dryer, washing machine, pulling things away from and off the wall.
You will I assure be mad as heck and your wife will feel violated. Lucky if you do not wind up moving.
Someone you know or are known to you commits most burglaries.
People talk. They may not be a criminal but the ones listening or the ones they repeat it to certainly can have criminal intent.
A large safe bolted to the floor could slow them down but it could just get your house burned down when they try to compromise it.
I am not trying to be completely negative but that is the way the pros work. If they know what they want they will take the time to get what they want. As for the dogs they are good but you could come home to find them locked in a closet or dispatched.
It is an invasion and you do not have to be there for it to be an invasion.
Alarms are good but must be redundant to be really effective. Most people will not spend the money to make them as effective as needed.
I do not speak from conjecture; I speak from experience both in business and Home.
Get good insurance and live your life but make no mistake a true burglary will leave you with a very angry and sick feeling. You, I can almost assure you, will never serve on a crime against person’s jury.

Sorry for the long post but I believe experience is the best teacher and best if learned through someone else’s.