I believe you mean "victim zones"Purplehood wrote:I don't recall a distance requirement. I think you may be referring to before the laws were changed regarding Gun-Free zones.Zoti wrote:I remember a certain distance restriction for schools. That means that if you sit on a bench where they bring out the kids then you are probably in violation of the law. The car pool is probably also within that range and also if I wail walk to where they have the "walkers" and pick him up.
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I don't recall any limit of restrictions on non-public schools. I believe the term used in the law is "educational institution"KFP wrote:As long as the school is a public school, you are able to carry when picking your child up. The premises of the school is off limits - premises being defined as the building, or portion of the building.
If the school is private, the 30.06 sign is valid. Depending on the location of the sign (parking lot for example) the property could be off limits for you.
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A public school district (Plano for instance) can post their parking lots. A person would not be in violation of the law if they carried past it (assuming TX CHL), because it is a government entity.jordanmills wrote:I don't recall any limit of restrictions on non-public schools. I believe the term used in the law is "educational institution"KFP wrote:As long as the school is a public school, you are able to carry when picking your child up. The premises of the school is off limits - premises being defined as the building, or portion of the building.
If the school is private, the 30.06 sign is valid. Depending on the location of the sign (parking lot for example) the property could be off limits for you.
A private school could post their parking lot and that same person carrying past the sign would be guilty of a Class A misdemeanor.
The premises of both is statutorily off limits. Outside of the premises, depends on who owns the property - the school or the taxpayers.
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I just want to update on this.
Today, I noticed that the parking lot entrance has a 30.06 sign. I have no idea how I didn't notice it before. I guess I was looking for one closer to the building or at the building entrance. I then drove and saw the same sign posted in the parking lot entrance to other schools so I guess it's a Plano ISD thing.
Today, I noticed that the parking lot entrance has a 30.06 sign. I have no idea how I didn't notice it before. I guess I was looking for one closer to the building or at the building entrance. I then drove and saw the same sign posted in the parking lot entrance to other schools so I guess it's a Plano ISD thing.
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From a legal standpoint they are invalid. A 30.06 sign posted on public property.Zoti wrote:I just want to update on this.
Today, I noticed that the parking lot entrance has a 30.06 sign. I have no idea how I didn't notice it before. I guess I was looking for one closer to the building or at the building entrance. I then drove and saw the same sign posted in the parking lot entrance to other schools so I guess it's a Plano ISD thing.
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Also, 30.06 signs do not apply to you while you are in your vehicle.
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And before anyone argues, no, you do not have to be carrying under the authority of CHL for the Federal GFSZA Exemption. You simply need to have one, not be carrying under it's authority.
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And before anyone argues, no, you do not have to be carrying under the authority of CHL for the Federal GFSZA Exemption. You simply need to have one, not be carrying under it's authority.
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What about 51%? I think the bar where they keep holding the NRA banquets has wide enough double doors...dicion wrote:Also, 30.06 signs do not apply to you while you are in your vehicle.
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And there I thought my problem is solved and I just can't carry.Purplehood wrote:From a legal standpoint they are invalid. A 30.06 sign posted on public property.Zoti wrote:I just want to update on this.
Today, I noticed that the parking lot entrance has a 30.06 sign. I have no idea how I didn't notice it before. I guess I was looking for one closer to the building or at the building entrance. I then drove and saw the same sign posted in the parking lot entrance to other schools so I guess it's a Plano ISD thing.
So, let's say I want to be the sign Nazi. How do I get Plano ISD to remove the signs?
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You can't. Has been tried before by one of the forum members here. PISD attorney claimed they were not a governmental entity, which is patently false, but they won't take them down. If you were arrested for 30.06 for carrying in the parking lot you would have a decent case for false arrest.Zoti wrote:And there I thought my problem is solved and I just can't carry.Purplehood wrote:From a legal standpoint they are invalid. A 30.06 sign posted on public property.Zoti wrote:I just want to update on this.
Today, I noticed that the parking lot entrance has a 30.06 sign. I have no idea how I didn't notice it before. I guess I was looking for one closer to the building or at the building entrance. I then drove and saw the same sign posted in the parking lot entrance to other schools so I guess it's a Plano ISD thing.
So, let's say I want to be the sign Nazi. How do I get Plano ISD to remove the signs?
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If that were the case, how would a school district justify having a Police Department?ScottDLS wrote:You can't. Has been tried before by one of the forum members here. PISD attorney claimed they were not a governmental entity, which is patently false, but they won't take them down. If you were arrested for 30.06 for carrying in the parking lot you would have a decent case for false arrest.
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... or have the right to raise funds through taxation??Purplehood wrote:If that were the case, how would a school district justify having a Police Department?ScottDLS wrote:You can't. Has been tried before by one of the forum members here. PISD attorney claimed they were not a governmental entity, which is patently false, but they won't take them down. If you were arrested for 30.06 for carrying in the parking lot you would have a decent case for false arrest.
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If the school is NOT a government entity, then DEMAND your tax money back!SlickTX wrote:... or have the right to raise funds through taxation??Purplehood wrote:If that were the case, how would a school district justify having a Police Department?ScottDLS wrote:You can't. Has been tried before by one of the forum members here. PISD attorney claimed they were not a governmental entity, which is patently false, but they won't take them down. If you were arrested for 30.06 for carrying in the parking lot you would have a decent case for false arrest.

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Here's the sign. Spanish wording is all washed out.
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That sign is posted at every Plano school that I've seen. As has been stated, it doesn't mean anything to a CHL holder.
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Is that a kid playing Rock Band at the top?Zoti wrote:
Here's the sign. Spanish wording is all washed out.
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