Accidental Discharge in Houston Restaurant

[jimlongley]

Back in my ER days, we once treated a guy who shot himself in the butt when his .25 caliber pistol fell out of his back pocket and discharged when it hit floor.... ....straight up into his buttock.

There were so many witnesses and he felt so stupid about the whole thing that he didn't even try to make up a big lie about how it happened. Most disappointing. The lies you usually hear in a situation like this are most entertaining.

One of my favorites was the woman who came in to our ER with multiple slash marks crossing her left wrist, including a couple deep enough to nick the Carpal Tunnel sheath and the artery adjacent. She claimed that she had been carving a roast beef and did it by accident.

As far as the clip/magazine issue - they are not the same, not even similar, in form or function, and people who confuse the two render themselves less credible, while those who insist they are same/same go farther.

[G Wagner]

There was a LEO I worked with, who shot himself twice in the matter of a few minutes. Seems he had a .25cal auto in his back pocket.

He sat down and it was not comfortable. So, he "adjusted" the weapon and shot himself in the rear

This caused him to remove himself to the restroom to "remove" the weapon and check the damage.

In the removal, he pulled the trigger again, and shot himself in the foot.

[Scott in Houston]

I wonder if he will lose his CHL.

He should. His right is null and void the same way a felon loses his 2nd amendment IMO.

Sorry, I can't agree. It was an accident and I'd sure like to know how the gun went off by falling to the ground. If it did, then it's a defective gun either in its design or manufacturing.

Driving is not a constitutionally protected activity, but we certainly don't revoke a driver's license because someone has an accident.

Chas.

Agree regarding what type of right it is, but it's not the fact that the gun went off as much as it is, how he handled the gun and failed to carry it properly and responsibly. This happened as a direct result of him being irresponsible with his right to carry.


This ranks up there with killing or seriously injuring someone while DUI IMO. It was purely irresponsible. And in the case of killing from DUI, they should lose their privilege of driving.

Obviously, all this is just opinion, but I'm just supporting my original opinion.

[rmr1923]

I heard from the lady that was shot daughter in-law on the radio this afternoon.....she is in ICU.
She was shot in a seated position....bullet went through her leg into her abdomen, not sure if she will pull through.

We CHL holders must carry responsibly.

i was listening to the same show and heard her call in. after hearing the daughter-in-law describe the damage it's done (as of friday afternoon they'd already done 1 surgery to repair her intestines and were possibly going to have to go in again) and that she's in ICU (her vitals are stable, but she's still in "critical" condition), i'm praying for her and her family that she pulls through.

i haven't watched the news this weekend, but does anyone know the latest on her condition? i normally expect the media to over-exaggerate a story and make it sound worse than it really is, sort of surprised that they've been reporting her in stable condition and making it sound almost like she was shot in the rear by a bb gun... at the very least they've managed to make it sound like a minor mishap.

[KD5NRH]

A clip is a device, usually made of sheet metal, that simply holds a group of rounds in a configuration that allows them to be more quickly loaded into either an internal or external magazine than they could be if you had to load them one by one by hand.

Or directly into firing chambers, for us wheelgun guys:

[KD5NRH]

I may be missing something, but I have a hard time understanding why someone would want to carry a two shot gun that is over six inches long, weighs 23 1/2 ounces unloaded, and doesn't have a trigger guard when one could carry a much safer and more capable firearm in the same size / weight envelope.

At over $600, price is clearly not a good reason either.

Looks like several of them are under $500, but still more than a comparable 5 shot .357 snub. (Taurus 605, 24oz, MSRP $429) Nearly twice the price of a PF9 (18oz loaded) as well. With either of those, you also get a much more useful grip and meaningful sights.

[dac1842]

We went to Raffa's last night. The blue sign is posted for starting out with :the unlicensed possession". Good food too ,great wait staff.

[flintknapper]

Or directly into firing chambers, for us wheelgun guys:

Yup, love Full Moon Clips.

[Excaliber]

There was a LEO I worked with, who shot himself twice in the matter of a few minutes. Seems he had a .25cal auto in his back pocket.

He sat down and it was not comfortable. So, he "adjusted" the weapon and shot himself in the rear

This caused him to remove himself to the restroom to "remove" the weapon and check the damage.

In the removal, he pulled the trigger again, and shot himself in the foot.

I'd put this guy right up there with the DEA agent who shot himself in the leg on videotape while demonstrating gun safety.

[Excaliber]

A clip is a device, usually made of sheet metal, that simply holds a group of rounds in a configuration that allows them to be more quickly loaded into either an internal or external magazine than they could be if you had to load them one by one by hand.

Or directly into firing chambers, for us wheelgun guys:

Point well taken.

I knew I was overlooking something with that wording - thanks for filling in the blanks!

[WildBill]

One of my favorites was the woman who came in to our ER with multiple slash marks crossing her left wrist, including a couple deep enough to nick the Carpal Tunnel sheath and the artery adjacent. She claimed that she had been carving a roast beef and did it by accident.

Multiple slashes - It must have been a really tough roast beef.

[Purplehood]

My liberal friend is having field day with this.

2011 is not starting out well for the 2A.

Ask him exactly what law would have prevented this. How would said law be enforced?

I don't think you want to go there...

[jimlongley]

One of my favorites was the woman who came in to our ER with multiple slash marks crossing her left wrist, including a couple deep enough to nick the Carpal Tunnel sheath and the artery adjacent. She claimed that she had been carving a roast beef and did it by accident.

Multiple slashes - It must have been a really tough roast beef.

Yeah, what most in the emergency medial field would call hesitation marks. Imagine the position you would have to be holding the roast in to cut yourself there.

[surprise_i'm_armed]

I may be missing something, but I have a hard time understanding why someone would want to carry a two shot gun that is over six inches long, weighs 23 1/2 ounces unloaded, and doesn't have a trigger guard when one could carry a much safer and more capable firearm in the same size / weight envelope.

At over $600, price is clearly not a good reason either.

My thoughts exactly. Who in their right mind would have a CHL and then
carry a 2 shot gun? Heck, many of us would not feel adequately covered
by carrying a 5 shot revolver alone.

The man who caused this ND doesn't seem to have made a very informed
set of choices for being 66 years old:
1. Had a gun, but it wasn't much of a gun.
2. Too naive/uninformed to know that he should have it in a pocket holster.
3. Negligent in retaining the handgun in the pocket of his jacket.
Sheesh.

The lady who was shot is 71 years old - not the best age to have to undergo
invasive surgery. Prayers to her that she can regain her former level of
good health.

SIA

[zigzag]

THis is no accidental discharge but a big N for negligent . That gun should have been in a pocket holster. Being a 66 yr old of senior age is no excuse vs a gun rookie new to handling guns. The fact you are licensed handgun holder means a responsible citizen. If i were the family member of the victim, i m getting ready to sue this CHL holder to the max. Much so if it was my grandma or mother. Excuse for the rant....