verbal 30.06 notice in Church each time ?

[stoneg1]

It’s disturbing to me that many of the members on this blog site seem to have been restricted in carrying their personal firearms (CHL licensed of course) in their churches. We have had a Shepherd’s Ministry at my church for about 2 years with the consent of the church staff. With all the assaults, robberies and killings on church campuses across the U.S. it’s become necessary that any size church needs to take measures to help insure the safety of the pastors, church staff and the congregations of our churches. If anyone contends that firearms should not be allowed in the church should read the Bible which is replete with scriptures telling us to keep watch over the flock and to be on guard of the evil one that would cause us harm.

[FNguy]

It's a house of God. I'm not convinced any mortal has "apparent authority" to tell me His will.

[Dragonfighter]

If given verbal notice it is the same as seeing a 30.06 sign. You can never carry in there again.
I might request a hearing before the church board and point out as example the other church shootings,or more likely find another place to worship that respects your 2A rights.

Or like I suggested in the other thread, ask them who the owner is and if they answer correctly (I.E. Jesus/God), show them Luke 22:35-36 (There are other passages but it requires more in depth study of words used, etc.). If they did not answer correctly, move on. If they answered correctly and then denied Luke, you know they do not hold God's word as authority and you need to move on.

Aside from any confrontation do as Bill Clinton said, "Don't ask, don't tell."

[bat1]

Or like I suggested in the other thread, ask them who the owner is and if they answer correctly (I.E. Jesus/God), show them Luke 22:35-36 (There are other passages but it requires more in depth study of words used, etc.). "

Ok I play devil advocate

Some would argue that Luke 22:35-36 is At the time the apostles understood Christ to mean real weapons, BUT some believe he spoke of Weapons of the Spiritual warfare. The Sword of the Spirit is the sword with which the disciples of Christ must furnish themselves

For me, I believe, it means what the apostles thought, only because of verse 38 He stated here are two swords, and Jesus stated "That is enough "

[Dragonfighter]

PM sent.

[Photoman]

Or like I suggested in the other thread, ask them who the owner is and if they answer correctly (I.E. Jesus/God), show them Luke 22:35-36 (There are other passages but it requires more in depth study of words used, etc.). "

Ok I play devil advocate

Some would argue that Luke 22:35-36 is At the time the apostles understood Christ to mean real weapons, BUT some believe he spoke of Weapons of the Spiritual warfare. The Sword of the Spirit is the sword with which the disciples of Christ must furnish themselves

For me, I believe, it means what the apostles thought, only because of verse 38 He stated here are two swords, and Jesus stated "That is enough "

Is there any place in the Holy Bible that ~prohibits~ the carry of weapons?

[wgoforth]

Or like I suggested in the other thread, ask them who the owner is and if they answer correctly (I.E. Jesus/God), show them Luke 22:35-36 (There are other passages but it requires more in depth study of words used, etc.). "

Ok I play devil advocate

Some would argue that Luke 22:35-36 is At the time the apostles understood Christ to mean real weapons, BUT some believe he spoke of Weapons of the Spiritual warfare. The Sword of the Spirit is the sword with which the disciples of Christ must furnish themselves

For me, I believe, it means what the apostles thought, only because of verse 38 He stated here are two swords, and Jesus stated "That is enough "

Is there any place in the Holy Bible that ~prohibits~ the carry of weapons?

No, but we are taught to obey civil laws when not conflicting with scripture. Were a church to post a 30.06, I know of no alternative than to (1) Go somewhere else (2) Seek to educate them into wanting to remove such. I know of nothing in scripture that prohibits carrying anywhere for that matter, but we understand we cannot take them on an air flight for example. Do I like it? Nope. Is there a choice? Not that I can see for the present. Frankly, as a preacher, I would not preach (ie, become the full-time regular minister) for a church that had such a sign. Chances are, they would be unhappy with my carrying anywhere else as well...it shows their attitude as much as anything.

[C-dub]

I know of nothing in scripture that prohibits carrying anywhere for that matter, but we understand we cannot take them on an air flight for example. Do I like it? Nope. Is there a choice? Not that I can see for the present.

As far as flying goes, there are options, but they aren't cheap. Charter a flight from a private airline or get a pilots license and fly yourself. We are only restricted from carrying our guns on commercial flights.

Otherwise, drive everywhere like I have for the last couple of years and take it with you. I have not flown anywhere that I can remember in the last 20+ years that would have honored my Texas CHL if we'd had it that long. I have yet to take my gun with me on a flight.

[wgoforth]

I know of nothing in scripture that prohibits carrying anywhere for that matter, but we understand we cannot take them on an air flight for example. Do I like it? Nope. Is there a choice? Not that I can see for the present.

As far as flying goes, there are options, but they aren't cheap. Charter a flight from a private airline or get a pilots license and fly yourself. We are only restricted from carrying our guns on commercial flights.

Otherwise, drive everywhere like I have for the last couple of years and take it with you. I have not flown anywhere that I can remember in the last 20+ years that would have honored my Texas CHL if we'd had it that long. I have yet to take my gun with me on a flight.

Not an option for me. I may fly to CA or PA and have to be back the next day to preach here. So not an option for everyone. We all carry where we legally can I'm sure.

[speedsix]

...next time I fly I won't NEED to carry!!!

...King David said he didn't depend on his sword to keep him safe...but he still carried one...
...when I slide the old P90 into the holster, I often pray not to need it...and not to miss if I do...

[boomstick]

...next time I fly I won't NEED to carry!!!

...King David said he didn't depend on his sword to keep him safe...but he still carried one...
...when I slide the old P90 into the holster, I often pray not to need it...and not to miss if I do...

I really like the last line you wrote above...

[C-dub]

I know of nothing in scripture that prohibits carrying anywhere for that matter, but we understand we cannot take them on an air flight for example. Do I like it? Nope. Is there a choice? Not that I can see for the present.

As far as flying goes, there are options, but they aren't cheap. Charter a flight from a private airline or get a pilots license and fly yourself. We are only restricted from carrying our guns on commercial flights.

Otherwise, drive everywhere like I have for the last couple of years and take it with you. I have not flown anywhere that I can remember in the last 20+ years that would have honored my Texas CHL if we'd had it that long. I have yet to take my gun with me on a flight.

Not an option for me. I may fly to CA or PA and have to be back the next day to preach here. So not an option for everyone. We all carry where we legally can I'm sure.

Me neither, but I have considered it.

[Bullwhip]

Verbal/oral/whatever (not a sign): it's he said/who said what?

Nobody is getting arrested because someone claims they told him something unless it's a trespass notice in front of the cops.

[jmra]

Verbal/oral/whatever (not a sign): it's he said/who said what?

Nobody is getting arrested because someone claims they told him something unless it's a trespass notice in front of the cops.

[speedsix]

...I don't know 'bout that...I've heard of the "tresspass notice"...heard that it lasted 6 months...never saw anything about it or its use or longevity in writing...but the CHL law just says if they tell you...skedaddle...and I'll do that...but I'll also do all I can to keep that unpleasant subject from being brought up!!! If it required a "trespass notice" before they could arrest me, I think it'd be spelled out in the law...and I haven't found it yet...