Stops 2 Tickets 0 since my CHL

CHL discussions that do not fit into more specific topics

Moderators: carlson1, Charles L. Cotton


Topic author
philip964
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 2
Posts: 18245
Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:30 pm

Stops 2 Tickets 0 since my CHL

#1

Post by philip964 »

I think it is my handsome good looks and my charming banter.

Stopped this time doing 73 in a 55.

The officer did not ask about whether I was carrying. He could not have been nicer, even before he said he was not writing a ticket and to be more careful and watch the speed limit.

Which I will do.
User avatar

JJVP
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 2093
Joined: Mon Feb 23, 2009 4:34 pm
Location: League City, TX

Re: Stops 2 Tickets 0 since my CHL

#2

Post by JJVP »

philip964 wrote:I think it is my handsome good looks and my charming banter.

Stopped this time doing 73 in a 55.

The officer did not ask about whether I was carrying. He could not have been nicer, even before he said he was not writing a ticket and to be more careful and watch the speed limit.

Which I will do.
Don't count on your CHL to get you out of tickets. I was stooped twice in the year prior to getting my CHL. Both times, warnings. Been stopped once since I got my CHL. Got a ticket.The lady officer that stopped me could not have been nicer and not at all treatened by my being armed, but she still wrote me up.

viewtopic.php?f=15&t=30689" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
2nd Amendment. America's Original Homeland Security.
Alcohol, Tobacco , Firearms. Who's Bringing the Chips?
No Guns. No Freedom. Know Guns. Know Freedom.

Westfield
Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 62
Joined: Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:59 am
Location: San Antonio

Re: Stops 2 Tickets 0 since my CHL

#3

Post by Westfield »

Got stopped about a year ago for not making a 100 percent complete stop at a stop sign. Very polite and all business police officer. Thanked me for showing my CHL and then wrote my ticket. Why do some people think a CHL is a get out of ticket card ? I don't understand that logic.

johnson0317
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 1047
Joined: Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:25 pm

Re: Stops 2 Tickets 0 since my CHL

#4

Post by johnson0317 »

There are a lot of threads in the LEO Encounters forum where people stopped by officers did not get tickets. There are many more instances of people getting off with a polite warning than those of people getting a ticket. No, I sure would not expect my CHL is going to impress any officer that stops me, but I hope (at least) he can intuit that I am not one of the bad guys. If I got stopped for something that could earn me a ticket, I would not blink twice at getting written for it...and then I would come here and make a thread about it.

RJ
CHL Received 5/16/11
Proud Member NRA
Proud Member Texas Concealed Handgun Association
Proud Member Second Amendment Foundation
Proud Member of The Truth Squad founded by Tom Gresham. "A lie left unchallenged becomes the truth"

Dan20703
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 1033
Joined: Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:26 pm
Location: Katy, Texas

Re: Stops 2 Tickets 0 since my CHL

#5

Post by Dan20703 »

a good friend of mine would get stopped and ticketed 2-3 times a years. since he got his chl all he's gotten was warnings. still gets stopped.
There will always be prayer in schools as long as there are tests.

"It's all about shot placement."- David (Slayer of Goliath)

Image

knotquiteawake
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 772
Joined: Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:18 am
Location: Rowlett, TX

Re: Stops 2 Tickets 0 since my CHL

#6

Post by knotquiteawake »

i've been pulled over twice before I had a CHL, while I lived in California, while being a teenager, and while driving a early 80's import coupe... both times I just got treated rudely but no ticket. 11 years of driving and no tickets so far.

fishman
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 470
Joined: Mon Aug 31, 2009 4:05 pm
Location: Tomball area

Re: Stops 2 Tickets 0 since my CHL

#7

Post by fishman »

Some people might disagree, but if all your license and paperwork is up to date, and you look and act like a decent member of society... I think your percentages of not getting a ticket go up. Being nice and have a good attitude can't hurt.
IANAL

Zen Nomad
Junior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 15
Joined: Wed May 06, 2009 11:35 pm

Re: Stops 2 Tickets 0 since my CHL

#8

Post by Zen Nomad »

I try to focus on not getting into a position to get ticketed in the first place. ;)

But seriously, the only time I ever get out of a ticket is when my girlfriend is in the car with me. When she is there, I always get a warning.

Otherwise, I get tickets, period, CHL or not.
User avatar

terryg
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 2
Posts: 1719
Joined: Sat Jul 03, 2010 12:37 pm
Location: Alvin, TX

Re: Stops 2 Tickets 0 since my CHL

#9

Post by terryg »

You can't apply this every time at every incident and every officer is different - but I think the biggest controllable variable (after you are pulled over) is your attitude toward the police officer. Folks with CHL's might find themselves getting more warnings, but if so, I think it is only because they start off very polite and respectful because of the CHL and the weapon.

I have been driving for 27? years now - I think? (driving age was 15 in Louisiana). Even when I was a teenager and got pulled over doing some really stupid things, I almost always got warnings. In all of my driving years, I would guess that 80% of the times I have gotten pulled over, I got a warning. Even when I was 17 and driving a red Alpha Romeo Spider (granted a 20 year old one), I would usually get warnings.

But I have always been extremely respectful during a stop. My parents raised me to say 'sir' - something I still do today even when talking with 'youngins' in positions of authority. It is so ingrained in my very being - that I just can't break it. It made Marine Corps boot camp a breeze - at least from that aspect - I had no problems yelling 'Sir Yes Sir'. (Even though I hate being called sir as I have gotten older - I tolerate it because I know it is the right thing to do - lol.)

I remember riding with a friend of mine in High School. He was doing some stupid things (passing on the right shoulder) in Humble and got pulled over. Now, he might have gotten a ticket anyway, but I remember being totally blown away by his attitude toward the LEO. The LEO was chewing him pretty good, but I could not believe the attitude he giving back - arguing and raising his voice. (He was a spoiled rich kid - my parents would have tarred and feathered me if I ever took that tone with them.)

So anyway, my theory is that the CHL (and the weapon) starts the tone of the conversation with the officer in the right direction - thereby lowering the ticket rate.
... this space intentionally left blank ...

Topic author
philip964
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 2
Posts: 18245
Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:30 pm

Re: Stops 2 Tickets 0 since my CHL

#10

Post by philip964 »

terryg wrote:
So anyway, my theory is that the CHL (and the weapon) starts the tone of the conversation with the officer in the right direction - thereby lowering the ticket rate.
So it is my charming banter after all. That's really what I felt all along.
User avatar

Skiprr
Moderator
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 6458
Joined: Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:50 pm
Location: Outskirts of Houston

Re: Stops 2 Tickets 0 since my CHL

#11

Post by Skiprr »

philip964 wrote:
terryg wrote:
So anyway, my theory is that the CHL (and the weapon) starts the tone of the conversation with the officer in the right direction - thereby lowering the ticket rate.
So it is my charming banter after all. That's really what I felt all along.
The best way to avoid a ticket?

Don't do anything that warrants a ticket.

Seriously.

I've been drivin' for over 40 years and have earned three tickets during that time: two for speeding, one for (questionably) running a stop sign.

The avoidance concept ain't that difficult here...
Join the NRA or upgrade your membership today. Support the Texas Firearms Coalition and subscribe to the Podcast.
I’ve contacted my State Rep, Gary Elkins, about co-sponsoring HB560. Have you contacted your Rep?
NRA Benefactor Life Member
User avatar

terryg
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 2
Posts: 1719
Joined: Sat Jul 03, 2010 12:37 pm
Location: Alvin, TX

Re: Stops 2 Tickets 0 since my CHL

#12

Post by terryg »

Skiprr wrote:The best way to avoid a ticket?

Don't do anything that warrants a ticket.

Seriously.

I've been drivin' for over 40 years and have earned three tickets during that time: two for speeding, one for (questionably) running a stop sign.

The avoidance concept ain't that difficult here...
That's why I said "the biggest controllable variable (after you are pulled over)". By that point, having a good respectful attitude is all you have left. But the absolute biggest variable is good driving behavior.
... this space intentionally left blank ...

chasfm11
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 4152
Joined: Thu Apr 15, 2010 4:01 pm
Location: Northern DFW

Re: Stops 2 Tickets 0 since my CHL

#13

Post by chasfm11 »

Skiprr wrote: The best way to avoid a ticket?

Don't do anything that warrants a ticket.

Seriously.

I've been drivin' for over 40 years and have earned three tickets during that time: two for speeding, one for (questionably) running a stop sign.

The avoidance concept ain't that difficult here...
Like you, I've been driving over 40 years and have 3 tickets (2 speeding, 1 red light) in that time. I earned all of them. I've been stopped 3 times in the last 22 years (speeding, license plate not visible and reckless driving) and did not get a citation or even a written warning on any of them. I've had no stops since getting my CHL.

While I actively drive to avoid tickets, I think that both "the luck of the draw" and local "revenue enhancement" might play a bigger part in whether I get stopped or not than my actual driving. There is no question that I do things every time that I get behind the wheel for which I could receive a citation, if all of the traffic laws were being enforced. Yesterday, I switched lanes in the last few feet before an intersection (I was trying to shake a tailgaiter) and could have been cited for that.

In our Town, some speed limits are set artificially low and speed limit changes are set up in a way that, if you don't see what happens to others at that point, you could easily get stopped there, too. As careful as I try to be, the speed limit in unfamiliar areas are easy to miss if you are having to spend your time avoiding those texting or talking on the phone while driving, as seems to be more and more the case.
6/23-8/13/10 -51 days to plastic
Dum Spiro, Spero
User avatar

Bart
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 718
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2007 2:23 pm
Location: Deep in the Heart
Contact:

Re: Stops 2 Tickets 0 since my CHL

#14

Post by Bart »

Skiprr wrote:The best way to avoid a ticket?

Don't do anything that warrants a ticket.

Seriously.
That works even better and is even easier for real crimes. I can see someone accidentally driving 62 in a 60 zone more than I can see someone accidentally robbing a bank or stealing a car. I think your advice is the perfect answer to the people who aski about eligibility for a CHL with a criminal record.
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
User avatar

Matt78665
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 261
Joined: Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:41 pm
Location: Round Rock Texas

Re: Stops 2 Tickets 0 since my CHL

#15

Post by Matt78665 »

One stop Zero tickets Did did it by the book and I could tell he appreciated my respect of my CHL and respect of his life
"Though defensive violence will always be a 'sad necessity' in the eyes of men of principle, it would be still more unfortunate if wrongdoers should dominate just men."
St. Augustine
Post Reply

Return to “General Texas CHL Discussion”