Why exactly are gun shows posted 30.06?
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Re: Why exactly are gun shows posted 30.06?
I think they are afraid everyone will want to show off their carry weapon while its loaded
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Well, good on you. What happens if you see a nicer holster for that CCW that you'd like to try out? What if you want to test-tuck another pistol on your CCW candidate list? Both are common occurrences at gun shows, and both would require you to unconceal and remove a loaded weapon. You might do so safely by going back to the check-in table and having the guy unload it, but would everyone do so, especially when if you've been there 4 hours nobody at the door remembers you and you'd have to pay to get back in?flb_78 wrote:agbullet2k1 wrote:It's also very good peace of mind to know that all guns in the show are unloaded,
I guess you are referring to folks who disarm for the improperly posted sign.
I should say that if you plan on getting a new holster or magazine or something that you will need to fit to your gun, it should be brought in unloaded and secured. I'll keep mine concealed within the law. I would not draw a loaded firearm in that situation unless I intended to use it.
About planning: I may go to a gun show planning on buying something specific, but it's like Wally World; you go in for Q-tips and leave with $800 worth of stuff you didn't know you needed

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Re: Why exactly are gun shows posted 30.06?
I think so.Mike from Texas wrote:Both gun shows that I attend regularly in D/FW (High Caliber in Ft Worth and Market Hall in Dallas) are posted 30.06. Can anyone give a me a good reason why?
It's because there are a lot of CHL holders out there that think its OK to pull a loaded gun, often pointing it at me, and put it into the holster they are looking at. One guy with a Kahr drew and swept me vertically from bottom to top until I pushed his hand out of the way. He got all annoyed and asked why I did that and I told him I didn't like loaded guns pointed at me.
His response? MY FINGER WASN'T ON THE TRIGGER!!! Oh well, that's different and makes me feel all warm and fuzzy.
I do 3 to 5 Guns Shows a month and very, very seldom does one by without someone drawing a loaded gun.
That's why.
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Re: Why exactly are gun shows posted 30.06?
Every show i have been to in Houston the check in guy is past the pay window so that excuse is out.
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Re: Why exactly are gun shows posted 30.06?
I would not expose a loaded handgun. That would be illegal. If I planned on going in to buy a holster, I would take the gun in unloaded as required. If I saw a holster and I just had to try it out, I would go back to my vehicle, unload the firearm, and return to the show.Liko81 wrote:Well, good on you. What happens if you see a nicer holster for that CCW that you'd like to try out? What if you want to test-tuck another pistol on your CCW candidate list? Both are common occurrences at gun shows, and both would require you to unconceal and remove a loaded weapon.
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To me, all the justifications given above for banning CHL carry at gun shows pretty much give an irrefutable argument for repealing the CHL laws in Texas and banning any concealed carry throughout the state. If the gun community cannot trust the CHL holders in its own ranks, then it has no standing to ask the rest of the public to trust us in any venue at all.
The proper policy at a gun show is of course, CHL holders with concealed handguns keep them concealed in accordance with the law, period. You want to test fit a holster, then bring the gun to the show UNLOADED, check it in, and use your spare gun for concealed carry that day. If you pull out your loaded gun in the absence of immediate deadly threat and all that, then you should be arrested (and I would include arresting any cops patrolling the shows who tried a "test fit" as well, if any are foolish enough to do such a thing). If you are the guy at the show who claims he gets four or five guys waving loaded guns at him every show, did you ever call the cops or the show officials? If not, you are part of the problem.
I am really surprised that the anti-CHL forces have not beat us like a drum during the legislative sessions because of the 30.06 signs at the gun shows. As long as those are in place, whether they have legal force or not, there's really not a lot of reason to ask the rest of the Texas public to accept armed CHLs in their midst either.
The proper policy at a gun show is of course, CHL holders with concealed handguns keep them concealed in accordance with the law, period. You want to test fit a holster, then bring the gun to the show UNLOADED, check it in, and use your spare gun for concealed carry that day. If you pull out your loaded gun in the absence of immediate deadly threat and all that, then you should be arrested (and I would include arresting any cops patrolling the shows who tried a "test fit" as well, if any are foolish enough to do such a thing). If you are the guy at the show who claims he gets four or five guys waving loaded guns at him every show, did you ever call the cops or the show officials? If not, you are part of the problem.
I am really surprised that the anti-CHL forces have not beat us like a drum during the legislative sessions because of the 30.06 signs at the gun shows. As long as those are in place, whether they have legal force or not, there's really not a lot of reason to ask the rest of the Texas public to accept armed CHLs in their midst either.
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Re: Why exactly are gun shows posted 30.06?
Good post ELB. I did notice the last Pasadena show didnt have 30.06.
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There is no such thing as "failure to conceal" at a gun show.
Everyone is openly carrying all sorts of handguns in their hands, holsters, cases, etc......
These are normally people that have these items for sale and are displaying them on their person while walking around the show.
I have NEVER heard of anyone being charged with UCW or Failure to conceal at a gun show since their inception.
In the old days, my Brother used to go to the gun show just so he could dress up. He would have his cameos on and two or three pistols in plain sight strapped on his body and usually carrying one or two long arms.
Just because we have a CHL does not mean we have to conceal at a gun show.
Now, being loaded is another story.........
Everyone is openly carrying all sorts of handguns in their hands, holsters, cases, etc......
These are normally people that have these items for sale and are displaying them on their person while walking around the show.
I have NEVER heard of anyone being charged with UCW or Failure to conceal at a gun show since their inception.
In the old days, my Brother used to go to the gun show just so he could dress up. He would have his cameos on and two or three pistols in plain sight strapped on his body and usually carrying one or two long arms.
Just because we have a CHL does not mean we have to conceal at a gun show.

Now, being loaded is another story.........

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Re: Why exactly are gun shows posted 30.06?
So you'd not give your business to the businesses inside the gun show because the promoter posted a 30.06 sign. It's posted like others have said, because people of lesser intelligence, manage to get CHLs and they will check to see ho well a round chambers in their gun.boomerang wrote:The idiots are allowed to carry. Meanwhile I'll obey the sign and spend my money somewhere else.SCone wrote:No, no, it's not you... it's that guy next to you we don't trust.boomerang wrote:Because they don't trust us.
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I noticed that as well. Some other guys in the ticket line were talking about and looking for it too. Maybe they had a change of heart?rm9792 wrote:Good post ELB. I did notice the last Pasadena show didnt have 30.06.
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Re: Why exactly are gun shows posted 30.06?
Thanks, good post, ELB, and along the lines I was thinking, also. It just didn't seem right, and I am surprised the anti's haven't used it against us already. But as someone has already said it probably has something to do with insurance.
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Re: Why exactly are gun shows posted 30.06?
30.06 at gun shows has never made any sence to me. You carry concealed, and see a 30.06 sign. Have to unholster and unload in line, then have it "checked" at the counter. Doesn't sound safe to me! Having a weapon loaded or unloaded makes no difference in the eyes of the law. So while carrying a concealed/holstered weapon would be a violation of the 30.06, carrying it in your hand, or visible, loaded would not. Doesn't sound safe to me! And what about all those dealers? Wheeling in "concealed" handguns in boxes and cases? Are they not technically in violation as well?