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evil_smurf wrote:So... does that mean my knife is illegal to have and/or carry?

I just bought this knife yesterday at an outdoor shop in the katy mills mall. It isn't automatic, but has a protruding back on the blade that when you push it it flicks the blade open.

Again, it isn't a button, it's actually part of the blade

Video I made of it: http://smurf.sourcefields.com/mov/knife.wmv
That's legal as the button is on the blade, not the handle or sheath.
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It operates the same the as mine. (Randall King Phantom Reflex)

Can the "clip" on your knife be swapped to allow it to be carried "tip up" instead of "tip down"? If so, for many people...it is easier to get a good grip on it when removing it from your pocket.

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My vote for changing the knife laws: eliminate them completely.
I won't argue with that, but if they can't push that through, they should at least make them clearer.

evil_smurf,

That is called assisted opening, and it is legal in TX. Of course, the problem with all of these ambiguities and fine shades of meanings is that they all depend on your encountering a cop who knows the law by heart. Good luck...
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evil_smurf wrote:
flintknapper wrote:It operates the same the as mine. (Randall King Phantom Reflex)

Can the "clip" on your knife be swapped to allow it to be carried "tip up" instead of "tip down"? If so, for many people...it is easier to get a good grip on it when removing it from your pocket.

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I actually took the clip completely off today. Didn't like it there

Well, that will work too. :grin:
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button on the blade legal?

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In my opinion, it is. The illegal knife law refers to a button on the handle. pushing the button releases a spring loaded blade.

I have a switch-blade that is illegal. The blade is release by pushing back on the top part of the handle. I think that 90%+ of LEO will not recognize it as a switchblade. The blade can be opened manually, just like any other knife.

I have a Kershaw that is spring assisted opening, however, you have to push on the blade to open it. I think it is legal but I recognize that a LEO could disagree.

I dropped it once, going through a metal detector and it 'sprung open'. The LEO monitoring it, wanted to look at it because it opened so fast. I was able to switch knives and gave him the one that is NOT spring assisted. ;-) No sense asking for trouble.

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JohnKSa wrote: (C) double edged knife;
why would you want a double edged knife illegal?
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therooster wrote:
JohnKSa wrote: (C) double edged knife;
why would you want a double edged knife illegal?
I think he means that state law already makes a double-edged knife illegal, but they don't call it that.

Calling it what it is would make it easier to obey. ???
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flintknapper wrote: The same principle holds true for my "escrima" sticks. It is lawful to have them with me as long as I am traveling to or from the Dojo or am engaged in some other (lawful) activity where I need them. But, if left in my vehicle the rest of the week, some over zealous LEO could cite me for possessing a "club".
I was not aware of that. It's illegal to carry a stick in your vehicle? Interesting.

I've been a martial artist all of my adult life, practicing mainly Aikido, Judo, and Jodo. The principles of Aikido and Jodo translate well to sticks of varying lengths, so I tend to carry some with me, though they don't have that "martial arts weapon" look to them. They are equally effective.

Regarding a knife for defense, I much prefer a stick. It's much easier to make a non-lethal choice with it.
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therooster wrote:
JohnKSa wrote: (C) double edged knife;
why would you want a double edged knife illegal?
Only illegal to carry.

Don't 'ca know that they're "weapons of war" who's "only use is killing" ;-)
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cjlandry wrote:
flintknapper wrote: The same principle holds true for my "escrima" sticks. It is lawful to have them with me as long as I am traveling to or from the Dojo or am engaged in some other (lawful) activity where I need them. But, if left in my vehicle the rest of the week, some over zealous LEO could cite me for possessing a "club".
I was not aware of that. It's illegal to carry a stick in your vehicle? Interesting.

I've been a martial artist all of my adult life, practicing mainly Aikido, Judo, and Jodo. The principles of Aikido and Jodo translate well to sticks of varying lengths, so I tend to carry some with me, though they don't have that "martial arts weapon" look to them. They are equally effective.

Regarding a knife for defense, I much prefer a stick. It's much easier to make a non-lethal choice with it.
A stick is illegal to carry if it is a "club" as defined in the penal code;


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CHAPTER 46. WEAPONS

§46.01. Definitions.

In this chapter:

(1) "Club" means an instrument that is specially designed,
made, or adapted for the purpose of inflicting serious bodily injury
or death by striking a person with the instrument, and includes but is
not limited to the following:

(A) blackjack;

(B) nightstick;

(C) mace;

(D) tomahawk.



From Merriam Webster online;

Main Entry: 2mace
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Old French, from (assumed) Vulgar Latin mattia; akin to Latin mateola mallet
1 a : a heavy often spiked staff or club used especially in the Middle Ages for breaking armor b : a club used as a weapon



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txinvestigator wrote:
therooster wrote:
JohnKSa wrote: (C) double edged knife;
why would you want a double edged knife illegal?
I think he means that state law already makes a double-edged knife illegal, but they don't call it that.

Calling it what it is would make it easier to obey. ???

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better yet, why dont we get rid of "illegal knives" laws anyways. none of them are more dangerous than others...

i prefer to carry a double edged knife, as they are a better tool and a much better self defense tool. why is that so bad?
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My sticks, a 5 ft. hickory and 41/2 ft. waxwood are for helping an old man walk, moving cows around, and what ever a person might need a good ''stick'' for.
I'm not afraid of being charged for having one of them with me even on a walk.
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txinvestigator wrote: Main Entry: 2mace
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Old French, from (assumed) Vulgar Latin mattia; akin to Latin mateola mallet
1 a : a heavy often spiked staff or club used especially in the Middle Ages for breaking armor b : a club used as a weapon
I suppose spiked flails also fall in this category. :sad:

OTOH, a couple cans of beans in a grocery bag should be passable. It was always my favorite when I didn't feel like carrying my bois d'arc cane. Never got hassled for either of them.
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ElGato wrote:My sticks, a 5 ft. hickory and 41/2 ft. waxwood are for helping an old man walk, moving cows around, and what ever a person might need a good ''stick'' for.
I'm not afraid of being charged for having one of them with me even on a walk.
I've never had a problem (yet) with having my escrima sticks in the back of my vehicle along with a gym bag, training knives, my "Gi" etc...I am just pointing out that if LEO wanted to "push" the issue they could.

Actually, it is "cane" that is my passion, they make a devastating weapon. As far as I know, they are still legal just about everywhere. Good item to have aboard a commercial airplane.

Anyway, I'll stop here...before I start spewing cane techniques. :???:


ElGato, sounds like you have the makings for a couple of good "Jo staffs".


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