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Re: Another Texas School to allow concealed carry

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Thanks for the info treeman. :cheers2:
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03Lightningrocks wrote:I may be wrong but I think the fear some have of carrying on their person stems from the fear that a student will somehow get ahold of the firearm. It may be a rational concern. Many high school students can easily overpower their teachers. Then you have the situation of a female teacher having the weapon in her purse. Where does she stash the purse?

While I am in favor of having concealed carry for teachers, there are real issues that need to be addressed. Having "designated" teachers as approved for carry, sounds pretty cool until you consider that you have just told every student who has the gun. Do they only choose teachers that know Kung foo?

The reason these are not issues with the general population is that people don't know who has a gun. We need to quit acting like fools and get rid of laws forbidding licensed concealed carry on school property.

Another issue... If a federal law forbids carry at schools, can state laws negate them?
I assume that if you went the designated teacher route, that information would be confidential. The students would not be privy to that information.
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Harrold ISD didn't disclose who was or wasn't armed, an Interview a year or two after they started the program with kids the kids said at first they used to try to guess, then they got bored and quit as it wasn't that exciting a game anyway. Sort of like sittin' on the porch, betting what kind of car will drive down the road in front of the house first...., then going in to watch TV because ....who cares ...
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My co-worker came up with this idea...attach gun safes..the bio-read your fingerprint kind to the inside of each teachers desk... weapon would be kept there... by installing on every teachers desk... no one really knows "who" is armed and "who" is not...this way weapon would be readily available if needed... I myself am a teacher and I am concerned about the safety of myself and my students in the event of an active shooter on campus...you also need to consider the teachers that travel from one campus to another throughout the work day...they maybe could carry on body.
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There is no gain in making this complicated, like a government project or something.

Repeal the Federal Gun Free Zone law. Encourage, but do not require teachers and other district employees to obtain CHL and carry. Parents and other with CHLs are no problem, are they? They don't shoot up banks, grocery stores, auto repair shops, or even government offices, do they.

Recall Keith Morgan in the TV studios a week or so ago. No one was killed or injured in the making of that interview.

The whole idea of gun free zones is a glaring example of liberal lunacy. Why not just get rid of it?
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jallen said:

There is no gain in making this complicated, like a government project or something.

Repeal the Federal Gun Free Zone law. Encourage, but do not require teachers and other district employees to obtain CHL and carry. Parents and other with CHLs are no problem, are they? They don't shoot up banks, grocery stores, auto repair shops, or even government offices, do they.

Recall Keith Morgan in the TV studios a week or so ago. No one was killed or injured in the making of that interview.

The whole idea of gun free zones is a glaring example of liberal lunacy. Why not just get rid of it?
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JALLEN wrote:There is no gain in making this complicated, like a government project or something.

Repeal the Federal Gun Free Zone law. Encourage, but do not require teachers and other district employees to obtain CHL and carry. Parents and other with CHLs are no problem, are they? They don't shoot up banks, grocery stores, auto repair shops, or even government offices, do they.

Recall Keith Morgan in the TV studios a week or so ago. No one was killed or injured in the making of that interview.

The whole idea of gun free zones is a glaring example of liberal lunacy. Why not just get rid of it?
We don't need to repeal the GFZA. It would be nice, but there already is an exemption for those with a CHL from the state in which the school is located. State law prohibits a CHL from carrying inside the school without permission from the school. All that needs to happen is either for schools to allow it as they are beginning to do or states need to make it okay unless posted with a 30.06 sign in Texas' case.
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They announced on channel 5 tonight that Cleburne is now considering allowing teachers to carry. It's a tidal wave! (Well, not quite, but we're gettin' there.)

http://www.cleburnetimesreview.com/loca ... g-teachers" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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I am not too far from Cleburne. It's a growing small town with a lot of influence from the rural areas around it. I hope they do allow trained teachers to carry. I always see someone objecting to anyone but a police officer carrying in a school. There is nothing sacred about the training police officers receive. If most teachers decided to change careers, they could become police officers and be out on the beat instead of the classroom. Any teacher who is physically capable and has a sheep dog's heart can be trained to be very effective, IMHO. I respect LEOs very much, but judging from some targets I've seen, some of them don't get to the range as often as they should so a teacher who was committed to regular practice and situational drills taylored to the school environment would do just fine. The idea of putting guns into lock boxes under the teacher's desk puts the gun too far out of reach if a shooter suddenly showed up while the teacher is several feet from the desk or out in the hallway. Perhaps that is a good location for a larger capacity gun, with a smaller gun carried on body for immediate use until the larger gun can be obtained. Best of both worlds.
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Re: Another Texas School to allow concealed carry

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This school district in my area is allowing too.

http://www.crossroadstoday.com/content/ ... h-bUg.cspx

Ganado ISD Approves Teachers To Carry Guns On Campus

GANADO, Tx (KAVU) You can add Ganado I.S.D. to the growing number of Texas school districts that's now taking security into their own hands in wake of the Sandy Hook school massacre.

On Thursday, Ganado I.S.D. board members approved a policy that would allow a limited number of teachers and staff to carry weapons on campus, making them the third school district in Texas to allow it.

Ganado I.S.D. Superintendent Jeff Black tells Newscenter 25, details of the proposal are still being worked out, but he says a limited number of staff will possess the firearms. Teachers and staff that carry the weapons, would only be on known to law enforcement and school officials.

Black says staff approved to carry the weapons will have to be approved for a concealed weapons permit, pass a psychological evaluation, and undergo hours of extensive training that would be provided by the district. Other safeguards would also be put in place to protect the district's 650 students, but would not release specifics. "This is a very reluctant step, but we wanted to give our employees a better chance of not becoming a victim, and an easy target, " Black says.

Black says the district has been considering approving the policy since 2007, when Harrold I.S.D. became the first school district to allow teachers to carry guns inside the classroom, but after the recent Sandy Hook shootings, he says it became a greater concern. "Even though we have a police department only 5 minutes away, we wanted to avoid a similar tragedy from happening here."
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http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Clebur ... 25021.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Wouldn't fly down here in the Valley, I don't think. It's a whole different country once you're south of the King Ranch.

But, I could be mistaken.
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JALLEN wrote:There is no gain in making this complicated, like a government project or something.

Repeal the Federal Gun Free Zone law. Encourage, but do not require teachers and other district employees to obtain CHL and carry. Parents and other with CHLs are no problem, are they? They don't shoot up banks, grocery stores, auto repair shops, or even government offices, do they.

Recall Keith Morgan in the TV studios a week or so ago. No one was killed or injured in the making of that interview.

The whole idea of gun free zones is a glaring example of liberal lunacy. Why not just get rid of it?
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Re: Another Texas School to allow concealed carry

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This is a pipedream in my homestate of Illinois. It might fly in my current state but not in Illinois where I grew up. Texas seems like the place to be if you are a 2nd Amendment supporter.
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ChiTownPicaro wrote:This is a pipedream in my homestate of Illinois. It might fly in my current state but not in Illinois where I grew up. Texas seems like the place to be if you are a 2nd Amendment supporter.
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