HEB, Applebee's, Half Price Books, 06, 07...... is it worth it?

[Rex B]

Have not missed Sprouts, and will not miss Half-Price Books either.

This. I was about half in the ebooks camp already, so it's a digital future for me.
I wonder what Barnes and Noble is doing?

[Tracker]

Drove by my home town's, Gainesville, What a Burger and Applebee's during lunch today.....no signs on either. Now, let's see if MDA or some anti group reads this and gives them a call. The vast majority of my community is staunchly pro 2a. If signs went up I expect their business to decline.

[Redneck_Buddha]

Have not missed Sprouts, and will not miss Half-Price Books either.

This. I was about half in the ebooks camp already, so it's a digital future for me.
I wonder what Barnes and Noble is doing?

Barnes and Noble is still a thing?

[WildBill]

Have not missed Sprouts, and will not miss Half-Price Books either.

This. I was about half in the ebooks camp already, so it's a digital future for me.
I wonder what Barnes and Noble is doing?

Barnes and Noble is still a thing?

Fortunately not all bookstores have bit the dust.
I went to Barnes and Noble on January 1st and they did not have any gun signs posted.
I had a good time browsing, but didn't buy any books.
Unfortunately, the Borders that was across the street closed down several years ago.

[Tracker]

Drove by my home town's, Gainesville, What a Burger and Applebee's during lunch today.....no signs on either. Now, let's see if MDA or some anti group reads this and gives them a call. The vast majority of my community is staunchly pro 2a. If signs went up I expect their business to decline.

I just looked at Texas3006.com and saw the photo where Applebee's was posted inside the entry......If this one has the same postings maybe that's why the restaurant's parking lot looked kind of dead. It wasn't getting much business.

[tlt]

Something else to consider, not to go too far down the Friedman path but, if I have $500 to spend on groceries per month (hypothetically speaking) and if I choose to spend that money at a store that sits on both sides of the fence and not at, let's say... their competitors store that welcomes me and my properly holstered weapon, both OC and CC, then, am I not withholding $500/month from a store that supports my right 100% and giving it to a store that's lukewarm?
Now, extrapolate that by a certain %, let's say just 2%. Let's take TX 2014 census of roughly 26,000,000 residents. That's 520,000 people.
Maybe the average person spends $250/month for groceries. Let's say half of them choose to go elsewhere. That amounts to roughly $65,000,000 in monthly revenue loss.
Maybe it's no big cheese, but I can't imagine that it's something to sneeze at.
Just trying to demonstrate that we have more fiscal potential then we realize. Power of the purse.

You have the right idea, but the math is flawed. Assume that 1,000,000 have CHL and 100% boycott, and let them know why, then go from there. When you are done, assume 25% might play, there is your number.. let's say 15-30m. Well, it won't do much good, if they don't know where the revenue went. So, create a site, and folks can post what they spent somewhere else, and how much, instead of XX, then they have some data to make a decision on.

In the end, I suspect things might settle out, at least that would be my overly optimistic hope.

[TexasJohnBoy]

30.07 doesn't bother me. I will still shop/eat there. 30.06 posted businesses I will not patronize, and I will take my hard earned cash elsewhere that does not deny my right to defend myself and others if the need arises.

[parabelum]

Something else to consider, not to go too far down the Friedman path but, if I have $500 to spend on groceries per month (hypothetically speaking) and if I choose to spend that money at a store that sits on both sides of the fence and not at, let's say... their competitors store that welcomes me and my properly holstered weapon, both OC and CC, then, am I not withholding $500/month from a store that supports my right 100% and giving it to a store that's lukewarm?
Now, extrapolate that by a certain %, let's say just 2%. Let's take TX 2014 census of roughly 26,000,000 residents. That's 520,000 people.
Maybe the average person spends $250/month for groceries. Let's say half of them choose to go elsewhere. That amounts to roughly $65,000,000 in monthly revenue loss.
Maybe it's no big cheese, but I can't imagine that it's something to sneeze at.
Just trying to demonstrate that we have more fiscal potential then we realize. Power of the purse.

You have the right idea, but the math is flawed. Assume that 1,000,000 have CHL and 100% boycott, and let them know why, then go from there. When you are done, assume 25% might play, there is your number.. let's say 15-30m. Well, it won't do much good, if they don't know where the revenue went. So, create a site, and folks can post what they spent somewhere else, and how much, instead of XX, then they have some data to make a decision on.

In the end, I suspect things might settle out, at least that would be my overly optimistic hope.

I can agree with you there. So when their analysts start wondering why their profit margins are taking a hit in Q1/2016, what changed from Q4/2015 for example, they could detect the potential culprit for the profit bleed a bit more expeditiously... perhaps.
Also, I know that my company has competitive intelligence dept. that looks at our competitor data. I imagine they have similar Corp. structure.
So, when they see their marketshare/revenue slip and their competitors rise, they might rethink their policy. PC aside, money rules this fallen world of ours.

Side note, I don't think that my math is too far off

[Rex B]

The realist in me says they will never see a cause and effect on their own.
We need to remind them what changed in January 2016.

Perhaps we should write them now, and then this time next year if the signs are still up, something like this:

"How was your FY 2016?
One year ago your establishment posted 30.06 signs at your entrance. I and many other Texas who value our right to defend our loved ones when in public places made a conscious decision to avoid businesses that do not respect that right. Our family has directed our business to [competitor] and [competitor] as they have no such restrictions posted.

Now that a year has passed, we urge your management to revisit your decision and consider removing those 30.06 signs.
We would like to be your customers once again..

"Note -We are OK with the 30.07 signage - leave those if you must. Call it a compromise position"

[toddlinder]

My response from Half Price Books:

Thank you for your email. Half Price Books has had a long-standing policy making all of our stores and facilities weapons-free. This policy will not change in 2016, though we are now posting signs in our Texas stores that are compliant with the relative statutes starting on January 1st.

We know this is a sensitive issue and understand that there are many different viewpoints on the subject. However, it is the policy from our corporate offices, to our warehouses, and to our stores that weapons are not allowed on the premises. We decided to do this for the comfort of our employees and customers.
Again, thank you for contacting us.

[jrs_diesel]

My response from Half Price Books:

Thank you for your email. Half Price Books has had a long-standing policy making all of our stores and facilities weapons-free. This policy will not change in 2016, though we are now posting signs in our Texas stores that are compliant with the relative statutes starting on January 1st.

We know this is a sensitive issue and understand that there are many different viewpoints on the subject. However, it is the policy from our corporate offices, to our warehouses, and to our stores that weapons are not allowed on the premises. We decided to do this for the comfort of our employees and customers.
Again, thank you for contacting us.

That's the same canned answer someone else got in another thread.

[Rex B]

I got the same boilerplate from HPB.
Copy and paste

[mojo84]

I think those of you that are playing the math game are way over estimating the number of people that actually will carry openly and the number that let their desire to open carry drive their shopping decisions.

I believe the difference to the major retailers if all regular open carriers decided not to shop with them would be negligible. If you don't believe me, just think how many open carriers you've seen in the wild so far. I have yet to see 1.

[Rex B]

From what I am seeing in this discussion and others, few of us care at all about open carry and the 30.07 signs. I don't intend to carry openly, most of us don't so it's (almost) a non-issue.
What we really care about is the 30.06 signs that came in with so many of the 30.07.

[2farnorth]

From what I am seeing in this discussion and others, few of us care at all about open carry and the 30.07 signs. I don't intend to carry openly, most of us don't so it's (almost) a non-issue.
What we really care about is the 30.06 signs that came in with so many of the 30.07.

I agree 100 %^^^^