Laser on weapon during CHL proficiency testing?

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Re: Laser on weapon during CHL proficiency testing?

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steve817 wrote:
Russell wrote:
brainman wrote:So it looks like several people won't allow it. These same folks also admit they know of no rule prohibiting it. What gives?
If there's no rule against it, first, why wouldn't you allow it, and second, by what authority are you not allowing it?


This is a very good question. Personal feelings shouldn't be coming into play when it comes to state-sanctioned testing. If there is no rule or law that Texas specifically does not allow lasers on the testing, why should the instructors be able to make up their own additional restrictions?
Heh, my instructor wanted me to de-cock my pistol and take my first shot using the double action trigger after every reload.
Actually so did the DPS at instructor school. I have a Sig P226 and they required me to de-cock it after each reload.
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Wasn't really a problem, I could see his rationale.
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steve817 wrote:Wasn't really a problem, I could see his rationale.
Agreed, but never used the de-cocker in that fashion and slowed me down and felt awkward,
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steve817 wrote:Heh, my instructor wanted me to de-cock my pistol and take my first shot using the double action trigger after every reload.
And a bit of advice.

If you ever take an advanced handgun course of two days or more, think seriously about avoiding a firearm that is manual decocking.

You may be required to fire over 500 rounds per day in short strings of one or two rounds, and you have to do it according to the manual-of-arms for your particular handgun. For manual decockers like a Beretta 92, that means flesh-tearing wear on your thumb like you can't imagine.

Seriously. Trust me.
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During my instructor class last April it was required to use the de-cockers and safeties if the gun was so equipped. I could see lots of people up the line who were not expecting to be required to use their guns this way. They were awkward at first, but most quickly mastered the routine. I was glad I was using an XDm :evil2:

Also, during the class, it was stated over and over that we are responsible for knowing the Admin Rules, so the expected knowledge for instructors is not just the CHL16. They also urged us to check the Admin Rules regularly because they are going to re-write them and we will be expected to keep up with the changes. It might be a good idea to just read through them now and then.
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TexasGal wrote:During my instructor class last April it was required to use the de-cockers and safeties if the gun was so equipped. I could see lots of people up the line who were not expecting to be required to use their guns this way. They were awkward at first, but most quickly mastered the routine. I was glad I was using an XDm :evil2:

Also, during the class, it was stated over and over that we are responsible for knowing the Admin Rules, so the expected knowledge for instructors is not just the CHL16. They also urged us to check the Admin Rules regularly because they are going to re-write them and we will be expected to keep up with the changes. It might be a good idea to just read through them now and then.
I don't believe the admin rules were even mentioned in my 2010 class.
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TexasGal wrote:During my instructor class last April it was required to use the de-cockers and safeties if the gun was so equipped. I could see lots of people up the line who were not expecting to be required to use their guns this way. They were awkward at first, but most quickly mastered the routine. I was glad I was using an XDm :evil2:

Also, during the class, it was stated over and over that we are responsible for knowing the Admin Rules, so the expected knowledge for instructors is not just the CHL16. They also urged us to check the Admin Rules regularly because they are going to re-write them and we will be expected to keep up with the changes. It might be a good idea to just read through them now and then.
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Well, I tested this past weekend. I just put a piece of "electrical" tape over the laser, and had no issues. I scored a 232, which I don't think is all that bad considering I haven't shot in months.

I would like to give a shout-out to On Target in Benbrook. Very knowledgeable staff. The owner came in and spoke with us for a while about weapon positioning and holster selection. He even gave us all an American flag lapel pin and a copy of the Constitution and Declaration of Independence.

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rfs2005 wrote:Well, I tested this past weekend. I just put a piece of "electrical" tape over the laser, and had no issues. I scored a 232, which I don't think is all that bad considering I haven't shot in months.

I would like to give a shout-out to On Target in Benbrook. Very knowledgeable staff. The owner came in and spoke with us for a while about weapon positioning and holster selection. He even gave us all an American flag lapel pin and a copy of the Constitution and Declaration of Independence.
I don't mind if someone has one on their gun, I'm not going to make them re-sight it...as long as it isn't used. Yup, On Target is nice folks.
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:thumbsup: On Target has been a good place in my experience too.
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rfs2005 wrote:Thanks, y'all. The grip is activated by a pressure switch between the thumb and index finger. There is no on/off switch. I will see if I can remove the battery without removing the grip. If I have to remove it after all, its not a big deal. Sighting it in again just means I have another excuse the spend time/money at the range. :woohoo :txflag:
My Crimson Trace laser grip has an on/off switch. If you look at yours, there should be a recessed button on one side (mine's on the left). Press that button in for 2-3 seconds and it'll turn the laser off.
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