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carry across border to mexico?

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:32 pm
by D.R.T.
here is an interesting question for us Texans so close to Mexico...

Does anyone know the international laws(if there are any) about carrying if you cross the border into mexico? Or another question...what if you were flying into Mexico...would you check your weapon, how does customs handle that...and does Mexico even have gun laws allowing carry? I'm just curious if anyone out there knows or has any experience with this.

Please post any thoughts. Thanks.

Re: carry across border to mexico?

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:34 pm
by Penn
No pistolas. If caught you'll be doing hard time in a Mexican jail.

Re: carry across border to mexico?

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:35 pm
by Commander
Even the possession of ammo in Mexico will land you in prison. Don't even think about taking a gun across.

Re: carry across border to mexico?

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:11 pm
by nuparadigm
Mexican carry laws for civilians are highly selective and foreigners are not included in any of them. Ditto for ammunition.

Aduana Mexicana (Mexican Customs) does give special permission for flying into the interior with long arms to be used for already-arranged, booked and verifiable hunting trips. Check with your travel agent for the details.

If you're going to the Border towns, you may want to think about it a little longer:
http://www.fbi.gov/congress/congress05/ ... 111705.htm

Re: carry across border to mexico?

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:30 pm
by HankB
I believe there are a few, very limited instances in which a US citizen can carry a pistol in Mexico . . .

1) If part of a previously approved joint operation with an arm of the Mexican government . . .

2) If the person is covered by diplomatic immunity . . .

Otherwise, even a single round of pistol ammo in your trunk can land you in jail.

Mexico isn't our friend - for a variety of reasons - so I have no plans to go there.

Re: carry across border to mexico?

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:43 pm
by KBCraig
nuparadigm wrote:If you're going to the Border towns, you may want to think about it a little longer:
http://www.fbi.gov/congress/congress05/ ... 111705.htm
And then think about it some more:
http://docket.medill.northwestern.edu/a ... 000630.php

Mexico has reduced the penalty for ammo possession from a felony to a misdemeanor. You still don't want to run afoul of their laws, though.

Re: carry across border to mexico?

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:02 pm
by WildBill
Even the possession of ammo in Mexico will land you in prison. Don't even think about taking a gun across.
:bigear: A friend of mine ended up in a Mexican jail for having an empty shell casing in his truck.
Mexico has reduced the penalty for ammo possession from a felony to a misdemeanor.
That's mighty nice of them. :tiphat:
Mexican carry laws for civilians are highly selective and foreigners are not included in any of them.
They don't even allow the police to carry a 45ACP. :shock:
Mexico isn't our friend - for a variety of reasons - so I have no plans to go there
My friends in Mexico told me that they were more afraid of the police than the "banditos."
Please post any thoughts. Thanks
D.R.T. - I hope you got the message. :rules:

Re: carry across border to Mexico?

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:30 pm
by flintknapper
Heavens NO!

Do not even think about it.

Don't take a handgun there, don't have ammo with you... and don't even speak of firearms when in Mexico.

If you are not there on a guided hunt (with all proper pre-arrangements made), do NOTHING to suggest that you use guns, own guns, have any interest in guns. Mexico is not your friend.

Re: carry across border to mexico?

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:33 pm
by tarkus
The best solution is to spend your tourist dollars somewhere else.

Re: carry across border to mexico?

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:34 pm
by Venus Pax
Mexico's government is corrupt, and they harbor terrorists (drug cartel gangs).

Re: carry across border to mexico?

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:03 am
by dukalmighty
I live 20 miles from Mexico in Edinburg,I carry a concealed weapon because i live 20 miles from mexico,the crime that occurs here by illegals is eye opening,also most border towns are not places i wanta visit,I've heard of everything from robbery to rape to murder to kdnappings that occur,and they know we are unarmed.I will spend my money in a more friendly nvironment

Re: carry across border to mexico?

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:34 am
by Liberty
I guess there really isn't much to add to the above. I am in Mexico. and I realy do wish I could carry here. I finding myself wishing that I had my piece with me. One thing to note though is that this place has millitary and Federales road blocks all over the place. the do search the vehicles and ones person looking for contraband. The folks here though are facinated by the concept of concealed cdarry. Probably though ones life it more at risk in the most areas from the drivers. They are deadly!

That being said Cozemel and Cancun are relatively safe places. and I wouldn't hesitate to go there [abbreviated profanity deleted] a vacation. Most of the border towns are ok for a short day trip. but I wouldn't advise straying from the main areas, nor wandering at night. I would not go into Nuevo Larado that is a very dangerous town.

Re: carry across border to mexico?

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:42 pm
by locknload
dukalmighty wrote:I live 20 miles from Mexico in Edinburg,I carry a concealed weapon because i live 20 miles from mexico,the crime that occurs here by illegals is eye opening,also most border towns are not places i wanta visit,I've heard of everything from robbery to rape to murder to kdnappings that occur,and they know we are unarmed.I will spend my money in a more friendly nvironment
That seems to be a huge secret. How do the folks North of Corpus Christi not know what is going on? :confused5

It amazes me almost daily that folks in Houston keep saying, "They're just hardworking folks here to do jobs we won't do." It's a lie. Some are. Most are not. Many of those that are not, hate us and come here to scam us in any way possible. They laugh at us, because we hand them money. I know. I grew up among them. They were my friends and some are now my relatives. I love the Mexican people and the culture ... the good things about Mexico. The government is rife with fraud and crime, and it filters down through the education system, what there is of that. They keep the populace as ignorant as possible, so as to be able to whip them up into a frenzy and control them. Mexicans are not stupid people. They are very, very bright ... most that I know, anyway. The Mexican government has just been criminally negligent in their proper education. So, many believe that they must resort to criminal behavior in order to survive. Then, they come here to escape punishment for their crimes and bring those taught (by the gov't.)/learned behavior traits with them.

Folks need to wake up and realize that the humble peasant mowing their backyard could be a rapist, murderer, robber, coyote, kidnapper, childnapper, or worse, and he is most likely carrying a gun and certainly carrying a knife. In his culture all men and boys learn to carry and use a knife for defense or offense. When I was a child, it was not unusual for women and young girls to just disappear. In fact, when Mr. XXX's wife disappeared, we didn't think he killed her. We thought she'd been kidnapped and taken to Mexico. That was the first thought that anyone had. We found out that it was true, when she managed to escape 5 years later and return to our town. Coyotes have always made a profit from transporting people across the border ... both ways! :eek6 That seems to be the hardest thing for folks here to understand.

According to our church's Missions Board, with the current surge in drug trade, the manufacturers in the hills of Mexico are having a difficult time getting enough children to harvest their cocaine fields and work in their factories. They have "used" them all up. A child doesn't last more than a few weeks in a cocaine factory, as the toxic chemicals and lack of proper protection kills them. So, they have sent coyotes to Houston, San Antonio, Dallas, Corpus, etc., to get more "workers." This has been going on for as long as I can remember. The coyotes blend into the landscaping industry and, when they collect enough kids, they take them, plus a woman that they have kidnapped to be the "nanny," back to the interior of Mexico. Much of this is ignored or outright facilitated by the Mexican government, as it benefits from the drug trade.

The saddest part of the illegal problem is what it is doing to mountain villages. Most mountain villages are without men of working age to protect the people. The only adult males left there are elderly or infirm. 1.5 million women (plus all their children) have been abandoned by the men in their families. These women and children receive NO :shock: money from their men in the US. In fact, many of those men marry US citizens, so that they can escape the poverty in which they left their families. This is the part that breaks my heart: Those women and children become prey to the Mexican militia and drug dealers. The drug dealers steal children about 8 - 10 years, sometimes 6 years old, and take them to the factories and fields, basically to die. The Militia steals little girls and pretty women for the sex trade. That is the pain and suffering caused by the greed of these men, who come here for the US dollars. When we hire a lawn man, this is the pain that we are causing in Mexico, and it breaks my heart. I believe that, if we didn't hire them, they would go home to their families. That has been proven. Then, they can work to come back to the US, with their families, the legal way. Many have done it.

People in the US need to wake up and realize that Mexico is a Communist led country. Why is that so difficult for us to accept? We were taught that, when I was in Jr. High ... way too many years ago. Things are harsh there, and the folks that escape and come here, bring those Communist ideals and ways of living to the US. Though I love much of the Mexican culture and so many Mexican people, I cannot see allowing their government to exert so much influence and power over the US citizens, as it does right now.

Re: carry across border to mexico?

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:05 am
by aardwolf
Spend your money where they respect your rights.

Re: carry across border to mexico?

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:15 pm
by elwood blooz
Penn wrote:No pistolas. If caught you'll be doing hard time in a Mexican jail.

Just ask Jim Pruett the next time you visit, that is some story...