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This is the god's honest truth, I am not making this up.

My instructor handed us a map of the US with the reciprocal states in one color, nonreciprocal states in another and a few of the states with just white. Texas was colored like the Texas Flag with a star and everything. A lady in my class asks "Are the different colors of Texas, different laws?" The instructor just told her "no.", but I wish he would've asked her to leave.

You guys have any funny stories from the class?

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Couldn't resist

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Couldn't resist

hahaha good god. I havent seen that before. Awesome recovery

I took my initial class in 2004. The instructor was a retired Border Patrol / LEO who now works in a gun store and team-teaches classes with his wife.

He was going over some charts on the wall, using a fly-swatter to indicate the various items he was referring to since he couldn't find his regular pointer.

One of the student in the back asked, "Are you licensed to use that thing?"

I couldn't help it... it was out of my mouth before I could stop it. "Of course he is! He was on the SWAT team!"

The room went deathly quiet for several seconds, as the instructor stood with his mouth open, the fly-flap waving aimlessly in his hand.... then as one, everyone groaned.

Yeah, I'm still friends with the instructors.

Nothing funny, but I do wonder why, without fail, if you get a group of adults together in a room for a class, at least three individual personalities will be present (sometimes all of them in one guy).

1) The unfunny class clown
This is NOT referring to the one-liner above. This about the guy who demands attention and tries to make a joke out of everything. He doesn't realize that he is annoying everybody and thinks he's knocking homers with each joke. I'll admit I was a clown in high school, but we all had to be there, and we were all immature. :) This guy helps to ensure that you won't get out early and frustrates the instructor enough that he probably misses some material. I take the CHL program very seriously. . . it has extremely important consequences that could end up in life/death situations or courtrooms and jailhouses.

2) The combative non-lawyer lawyer
He argues every point, tries to shoot holes in every statement, and often his own anecdote to every topic raised. He guarantees you won't get out early. He's not asking questions out of an honest desire to know something important. . . he's asking them to demonstrate his own "vast" knowledge or to catch the instructor off guard.

3) The endless "what-if" scenario guy
Anytime the instructor makes a point or paints a picture, this guy comes up with an endless number of modifications or unrealistic additions to the scenario. He can't accept the threat assessment strategy at face value, he has to try to explore every single potential situation that could ever arise at the expense of the sanity of the class and the patience of the instructors.

Man. . . now I'm not looking forward to my renewal as much.

To disarm those that misread what I said: I'm ALL for asking questions. I ask a bunch. But I ask genuine, inquisitive questions to clarify, understand, or elaborate on something that might not have been clearly communicated. I never mind it when others do the same thing. . . or when some just need to hear something restated a few times to let it sink in. I'm talking about the guys who try to take command of the classroom away from the instructors. They are not unique to CHL classes, but they're there. They were in our birthing classes, defensive driving classes, and hunter safety classes. They always show up, without fail.

Be careful if you can't find the loudmouth in your class. . . :) . . . it might be you. hahaha. j/k.

fickman wrote:Nothing funny, but I do wonder why, without fail, if you get a group of adults together in a room for a class, at least three individual personalities will be present (sometimes all of them in one guy).

2) The combative non-lawyer lawyer
He argues every point, tries to shoot holes in every statement, and often his own anecdote to every topic raised. He guarantees you won't get out early. He's not asking questions out of an honest desire to know something important. . . he's asking them to demonstrate his own "vast" knowledge or to catch the instructor off guard.

3) The endless "what-if" scenario guy
Anytime the instructor makes a point or paints a picture, this guy comes up with an endless number of modifications or unrealistic additions to the scenario. He can't accept the threat assessment strategy at face value, he has to try to explore every single potential situation that could ever arise at the expense of the sanity of the class and the patience of the instructors.

I'm #3 so get #2 to sue me

I didn't act the part in class though, I save those discussions for this board and those that don't choose to partake can just click right past them

Endless what-ifs are fun on the board - I love them. Man, they're tiresome in the classroom, though. . . especially after you've been there for eight hours.

When I took my class years ago, the instructor told us how long the class would be at the beginning of the intro, and then said we were free to bring food and drink into the class to make things more comfortable if we wanted. The guy next to me ( not in a joking manner, but serious ) asked the instructor in front of the whole class if that included beer. No body laughed, the instructor then launched into a well deserved diatribe about guns and alchohol, CHL and alchohol ect. I swear I thought he was gonna kick that guy out, but he stayed and ended up passing.

Our instructor told us of some lady that asked him why it would be illegal to use deadly force in the case of stopping a suicide attempt....

Ace_Inthe_O wrote:Our instructor told us of some lady that asked him why it would be illegal to use deadly force in the case of stopping a suicide attempt....

I just got dumber...I didnt think that could happen...

XtremeDuty.45 wrote:

Ace_Inthe_O wrote:Our instructor told us of some lady that asked him why it would be illegal to use deadly force in the case of stopping a suicide attempt....

I just got dumber...I didnt think that could happen...

I recently had someone arguing with me that you can use deadly force to stop a suicide attempt...

My class went very smoothly, everyone seemed very mature and focused, and it left me with a sense of admiration for the type of person that carried a CHL. I was really impressed and honestly felt safer knowing that the kind of people in my class would be walking among the general public carrying loaded firearms.

XtremeDuty.45 wrote:

Ace_Inthe_O wrote:Our instructor told us of some lady that asked him why it would be illegal to use deadly force in the case of stopping a suicide attempt....

I just got dumber...I didnt think that could happen...

Ahem....suicide bomber?

I can also think of some pretty complex ways that it could be done. Most of them involve shooting someone to get them away from pressing the button on a Rube Goldberg type device. Of course, my mind is just weird that way.

Well, using deadly force does not mean that you will kill them. Shooting someone's hand, limbs, non vital areas is still using deadly force, but to prevent a deadly effect.

TexasVet wrote:Well, using deadly force does not mean that you will kill them. Shooting someone's hand, limbs, non vital areas is still using deadly force, but to prevent a deadly effect.

Here is the applical section of law. I can't think of a scenero where you would be justified in shooting someone to save thier life, but I guess it could happen. I think the use of deadly force is more applicable to a limb amputation or the like.

PC $9.34. PROTECTION OF LIFE OR HEALTH. (a) A person is
justified in using force, but not deadly force, against another when and
to the degree he reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary
to prevent the other from committing suicide or inflicting serious
bodily injury to himself.
(b) A person is justified in using both force and deadly force against
another when and to the degree he reasonably believes the force or
deadly force is immediately necessary to preserve the other's life in an
emergency.

(b) A person is justified in using both force and deadly force against
another when and to the degree he reasonably believes the force or
deadly force is immediately necessary to preserve the other's life in an
emergency.

How about in a "Shoot the hostage" situation? (I believe from the movie Speed).