DoD to stop selling brass to US remanufacturers but to China
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DoD to stop selling brass to US remanufacturers but to China
Georgia Arms is the 5th largest retailer of .223 Ammo in America. (they sell 9 mm, .45, etc)
They normally buy spent brass from the US Dept of Defense - 'one time used' shell casings by our Military - from training on Military bases, etc. They buy the brass and then re-load for resale to Law Enforcement, Gun Shops, Gun Clubs, etc.
They normally buy 30,000 lbs of spent brass at a time.
This week the DoD wrote a letter to the owner of Georgia Arms and said that from now on the DoD will be destroying the brass - shredding it. It is no longer available to the Ammo makers - unless they just buy it in a scrap condition (which they have No use for). BTW - The brass is NOW going to be sold by the DoD to China as scrap - for less money than Ammo manufacturers have been paying for the shells before processing to destroy. That sure helps the US economy now, doesn't it? Sell cheaper to China - and do not sell shells at all to a proven US business. Any agenda working here????
The Georgia Arms owner even related a story that one of his competitors had already purchased a load of brass last week - and the DoD contacted him this week and said they were sending someone over to make sure it was destroyed. Shell Casings he had already bought! THE BRASS HAS NO VALUE TO THE AMMO MAKER IF IT IS DESTROYED/SHREDDED/MELTED. HE ONLY USES IT TO RELOAD DIFFERENT CALIBERS - MAINLY .223 BULLETS.
Georgia Arms owner says that he will have to lay off at least Half of his 60 workers, within 2 - 3 months if the DoD no longer sells their spent brass to him. He has 2 - 3 months inventory of shells to use. By summer - he's out.
I guess we all knew this was coming. Since Obama can't ban our weapons in light of the Heller decision, he's moving to make ammo inaccessible. Our guns will be reduced to expensive clubs.
You can read the info and see the DoD letter to Georgia Arms here:
The Shootist Site
http://www.theshootist.net/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Georgia Arms Site:
http://georgia-arms.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
They normally buy spent brass from the US Dept of Defense - 'one time used' shell casings by our Military - from training on Military bases, etc. They buy the brass and then re-load for resale to Law Enforcement, Gun Shops, Gun Clubs, etc.
They normally buy 30,000 lbs of spent brass at a time.
This week the DoD wrote a letter to the owner of Georgia Arms and said that from now on the DoD will be destroying the brass - shredding it. It is no longer available to the Ammo makers - unless they just buy it in a scrap condition (which they have No use for). BTW - The brass is NOW going to be sold by the DoD to China as scrap - for less money than Ammo manufacturers have been paying for the shells before processing to destroy. That sure helps the US economy now, doesn't it? Sell cheaper to China - and do not sell shells at all to a proven US business. Any agenda working here????
The Georgia Arms owner even related a story that one of his competitors had already purchased a load of brass last week - and the DoD contacted him this week and said they were sending someone over to make sure it was destroyed. Shell Casings he had already bought! THE BRASS HAS NO VALUE TO THE AMMO MAKER IF IT IS DESTROYED/SHREDDED/MELTED. HE ONLY USES IT TO RELOAD DIFFERENT CALIBERS - MAINLY .223 BULLETS.
Georgia Arms owner says that he will have to lay off at least Half of his 60 workers, within 2 - 3 months if the DoD no longer sells their spent brass to him. He has 2 - 3 months inventory of shells to use. By summer - he's out.
I guess we all knew this was coming. Since Obama can't ban our weapons in light of the Heller decision, he's moving to make ammo inaccessible. Our guns will be reduced to expensive clubs.
You can read the info and see the DoD letter to Georgia Arms here:
The Shootist Site
http://www.theshootist.net/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Georgia Arms Site:
http://georgia-arms.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: DoD to stop selling brass to US remanufacturers but to China
wow! not sure what else there is to say.... but wow......
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Re: DoD to stop selling brass to US remanufacturers but to China
It's already been reported, in two other threads, that the policy has been rescinded.
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Re: DoD to stop selling brass to US remanufacturers but to China
It was "coding" mistake from the beginning.
Lets all get up to speed on this...and not promote a fallacy.
Lets all get up to speed on this...and not promote a fallacy.
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Re: DoD to stop selling brass to US remanufacturers but to China
Phew! I was speechless there for a minute too until I read that it was rescinded. I still have nothing to say, besides what the heck? No ammo and no guns and we can't fight back I guess is the motive. Was this attempted and done away with once people caught wind or just a rumor all along?
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Re: DoD to stop selling brass to US remanufacturers but to China
It was a mistake that began with a Bush bureaucrat back in November.
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Re: DoD to stop selling brass to US remanufacturers but to China
Mike, do you have any more details or cites for that?
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Re: DoD to stop selling brass to US remanufacturers but to China
While reading the threads on THR and AR15, I saw where, in Nov 08, an employee coded the brass as requiring destruction but with an exception for .50 and smaller brass.
Part two was when someone removed the exceptions, with or without knowledge of the result.
The solution, two days ago, was to properly code the brass.
If anyone interpreted it differently, I stand to be corrected.
Part two was when someone removed the exceptions, with or without knowledge of the result.
The solution, two days ago, was to properly code the brass.
If anyone interpreted it differently, I stand to be corrected.
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Re: DoD to stop selling brass to US remanufacturers but to China
I panicked a little bit when this first came out on georgia-arms.com and bought 2000 more rounds of 223 from Cabella's.
I paid 42 cents per round, a little high, but I have enough for a long time now.
texasag
I paid 42 cents per round, a little high, but I have enough for a long time now.
texasag
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Re: DoD to stop selling brass to US remanufacturers but to China
Wow.texasag93 wrote:I panicked a little bit when this first came out on georgia-arms.com and bought 2000 more rounds of 223 from Cabella's.
I paid 42 cents per round, a little high, but I have enough for a long time now.
texasag