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So how many of you...

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 7:05 pm
by one eyed fatman
So how many of you have heard the term Bar Room Lawyer? Have you ever met one? I was told by a cop many years ago that a bar room lawyer is someone who talks about the law and gives others legal advice without really knowing anything about the law. An unlicensed person. I'm pretty lucky I've only met one in my lifetime.

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 7:57 pm
by jimlongley
I knew a lot of "barracks lawyers" and "sea lawyers" when I was in the service. I am familiar with the genre.

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:06 pm
by Crossfire
Perhaps you should have read the mission statement of this forum before you decided to start launching personal attacks, FatMan.

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:36 pm
by one eyed fatman
Talking to a cop 20 years ago was a personal attack? I didn't know.

http://www.legalmatch.com/

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:58 pm
by longtooth
No one here has to wonder who it referred to.

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 9:25 pm
by one eyed fatman
longtooth wrote:No one here has to wonder who it referred to.
That was a pretty foolish statement to make. You have no idea what I'm talking about. Twenty years ago that cop was calling me a bar room lawyer. :grin:

You just jumped the gun and shot yourself in the foot. :grin:

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:01 pm
by one eyed fatman
Nice pic Tx but this thread isn't about childish pics it's about taking real advice from known professionals. I learned a good lesson from that cop. But you in your own insecure little world didn't learn anything from this, did you? :roll: Mr. Cotton is a known professional. I bet he cringed when you said in another thread "The law is simple" or some such nonsense. This thread had nothing to do with you Tx. It was about a lesson a professional taught me.

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:07 pm
by longtooth
ignore him txi. the rest of us are. My last response to any post he makes. We know who you are & who to trust our back trail to.

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:09 pm
by jimlongley
I haven't seen much of anyone acting like a barracks lawyer on here, OEFM, usually tthe first words out of their mouths are something like "Let me tell you how to beat a charge like that . . ."

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:15 pm
by txinvestigator
one eyed fatman wrote:Nice pic Tx but this thread isn't about childish pics it's about taking real advice from known professionals. I learned a good lesson from that cop. But you in your own insecure little world didn't learn anything from this, did you? :roll: Mr. Cotton is a known professional. I bet he cringed when you said in another thread "The law is simple" or some such nonsense. This thread had nothing to do with you Tx. It was about a lesson a professional taught me.
I am going to address you now for the final time. It is obvious to even an idiot that you addressed this thread towards me. You caused a thread to be closed last night by your idiot ramblings and unfounded personal attacks.

I am sorry that you don't understand the adult conversations and discussions of the law that we have here. But because YOU don't get it does not mean that people who do get it and can discuss it intelligently are somehow wrong.

As far as being a professional, I am a LE veteren, a current Texas DPS CHL instructor, Current Level III Texas DPS Classroom and Firearms Instructor, a Law Enforcement Instructor, and I also hold instrutors certifications in non-related subjects. I have proven my knowledge here.

I have attended several PPO/Armed bodyguard training schools, numerous firearms training schools, and I have actually participated in many in and out of state VIP/EP assignments. I have BDTD.

I have offered my advice here, and when wrong I have admitted so.

I am not some security guard, armchair commando who has difficulty understand even the simplist precepts of the CHL and Self-defense laws.

Again I ask, what are YOUR qualifications and experience?

If you would like to discuss actual law and issues fine, if you can't do that without challenging people and resorting to personal attacks I suggest you remain quiet.

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:21 pm
by one eyed fatman
I think Mr. Cotton needs to stop the Kangaroo courtroom tactics going on here. I don't think he meant for this forum to turn into a "I'll tell you the law for $14.95 forum".

Every good cop I know will tell me he does not give advice on the law.

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:26 pm
by txinvestigator
one eyed fatman wrote:I think Mr. Cotton needs to stop the Kangaroo courtroom tactics going on here. I don't think he meant for this forum to turn into a "I'll tell you the law for $14.95 forum".
This forum is entitled "General Texas CHL Discussion" Please enlighten us as to how your first post in this thread fits that.

You are right, it needs to stop. You need to stop behaving as a spoiled litle child who got his feelings hurt.

You wanna start stuff then cry to daddy? If you can't run with the big dogs, don't get off the porch.

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:31 pm
by Texasdoc
you know I have been here for a short time ,and have found that TXI has been on the mark. I am a retired LEO and I do understand the law. the law is something the common man can and should understand.

If you have a problem with it you should do some reading and attempt to learn it. As you stated you are a CHL holder and I really hope you do understand the use of Deadly force and I really hope you have to never use it .

I have and its not a good thing to have to say.


I am asking you to stop with this negative crap and start acting like a true man.

I know I am now on the Flame list but I really don't care as you are not giving anything that People in the know are telling you .


I don't know TXI personally but with his credits to his name , the I believe he has BTDT and has the T-shirt to prove it .

Now that I have said, I will get off the soap box and let you flame me .

300shooter

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:37 pm
by jbirds1210
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SOOO, lets talk about something else a bit more peaceful! How about those mosquitoes...they are going to be bad in a couple of days :grin:

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:38 pm
by txinvestigator
jbirds1210 wrote:Image


SOOO, lets talk about something else a bit more peaceful! How about those mosquitoes...they are going to be bad in a couple of days :grin:
Man, I wish we could pump some of that water up here. We are under severe water restrictions. :sad: