Ex-Employee revisiting old work place
Moderators: carlson1, Charles L. Cotton
-
Topic author - Senior Member
- Posts in topic: 1
- Posts: 1090
- Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:14 pm
- Location: League City, TX
Ex-Employee revisiting old work place
Lets say I am a CHL holder and I work at a place that has the old 'no guns in the office' sentance in the Employee handbook and a worthless 'It is unlawful to have gun in the building' on the front door (even though I am tempted to add a 'oh no it isn't' to the end of it).
Now lets say I leave that employ and go to work elsewhere for a entirely different employer.
Now say I decide to pop back into the office to see my old buddies. Can I lawfully carry even though I know that the employee handbook forbids fireamrs in the office?
My own feeling is that I know the handbook and so should consider that 'written notice'.
Thoughts anyone?
Now lets say I leave that employ and go to work elsewhere for a entirely different employer.
Now say I decide to pop back into the office to see my old buddies. Can I lawfully carry even though I know that the employee handbook forbids fireamrs in the office?
My own feeling is that I know the handbook and so should consider that 'written notice'.
Thoughts anyone?
Glock - When a FTF just isn't an option!
04/24/09 - CHL Class
08/17/09 - Plastic in hand!
NRA & TSRA Member
Free men do not ask permission to bear arms.
"Society doesn't have a gun problem; Society has a society problem"
04/24/09 - CHL Class
08/17/09 - Plastic in hand!
NRA & TSRA Member
Free men do not ask permission to bear arms.
"Society doesn't have a gun problem; Society has a society problem"
Re: Ex-Employee revisiting old work place
You are not an employee any longer. They have not given you proper notice.
Carry away!
Carry away!
I am not and have never been a LEO. My avatar is in honor of my friend, Dallas Police Sargent Michael Smith, who was murdered along with four other officers in Dallas on 7.7.2016.
NRA Patriot-Endowment Lifetime Member---------------------------------------------Si vis pacem, para bellum.................................................Patriot Guard Rider
NRA Patriot-Endowment Lifetime Member---------------------------------------------Si vis pacem, para bellum.................................................Patriot Guard Rider
-
- Senior Member
- Posts in topic: 2
- Posts: 290
- Joined: Fri Nov 07, 2008 3:09 pm
- Location: Maybe a little left from you.
Re: Ex-Employee revisiting old work place
No matter what the law says I bet the employer would make a stink and you would be in a position to defend your actions. Some people automatically get all wound up when an ex-employee shows up armed. Go figure.
80% Liberal, 90% Democrat, 100% Responsible gun owner.
Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative. John Stuart Mill (1806-1873)
Jesus was a Jewish Liberal
Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative. John Stuart Mill (1806-1873)
Jesus was a Jewish Liberal
Re: Ex-Employee revisiting old work place
Upon further thought. Unless you were given verbal notice at some point.
However, I think Steve or someone may have mentioned in another thread that verbal notice is difficult to prove.
However, I think Steve or someone may have mentioned in another thread that verbal notice is difficult to prove.
I am not and have never been a LEO. My avatar is in honor of my friend, Dallas Police Sargent Michael Smith, who was murdered along with four other officers in Dallas on 7.7.2016.
NRA Patriot-Endowment Lifetime Member---------------------------------------------Si vis pacem, para bellum.................................................Patriot Guard Rider
NRA Patriot-Endowment Lifetime Member---------------------------------------------Si vis pacem, para bellum.................................................Patriot Guard Rider
-
- Senior Member
- Posts in topic: 1
- Posts: 9316
- Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 7:13 pm
- Location: Arlington
Re: Ex-Employee revisiting old work place
Who's to say you didn't forget?C-dub wrote:You are not an employee any longer. They have not given you proper notice. Carry away!
Diplomacy is the Art of Letting Someone Have Your Way
TSRA
Colt Gov't Model .380
TSRA
Colt Gov't Model .380
Re: Ex-Employee revisiting old work place
I agree, but unless he had made his opinions common knowledge and were properly concealed no one would be the wiser.Zee wrote:No matter what the law says I bet the employer would make a stink and you would be in a position to defend your actions. Some people automatically get all wound up when an ex-employee shows up armed. Go figure.
I am not and have never been a LEO. My avatar is in honor of my friend, Dallas Police Sargent Michael Smith, who was murdered along with four other officers in Dallas on 7.7.2016.
NRA Patriot-Endowment Lifetime Member---------------------------------------------Si vis pacem, para bellum.................................................Patriot Guard Rider
NRA Patriot-Endowment Lifetime Member---------------------------------------------Si vis pacem, para bellum.................................................Patriot Guard Rider
Re: Ex-Employee revisiting old work place
If I ever leave my current employer, and I don't want to, I will certainly carry if I ever go back inside. The parking lot bill can't become law quick enough for me.
I am not and have never been a LEO. My avatar is in honor of my friend, Dallas Police Sargent Michael Smith, who was murdered along with four other officers in Dallas on 7.7.2016.
NRA Patriot-Endowment Lifetime Member---------------------------------------------Si vis pacem, para bellum.................................................Patriot Guard Rider
NRA Patriot-Endowment Lifetime Member---------------------------------------------Si vis pacem, para bellum.................................................Patriot Guard Rider
-
- Senior Member
- Posts in topic: 2
- Posts: 5073
- Joined: Sun Jun 26, 2005 1:04 am
- Location: DFW Area, TX
Re: Ex-Employee revisiting old work place
You could have legally carried when you were an employee, although they could have fired you for violating company policy. Now they can't hold that over you. Carry away.Kevinf2349 wrote:Lets say I am a CHL holder and I work at a place that has the old 'no guns in the office' sentance in the Employee handbook and a worthless 'It is unlawful to have gun in the building' on the front door (even though I am tempted to add a 'oh no it isn't' to the end of it).
Now lets say I leave that employ and go to work elsewhere for a entirely different employer.
Now say I decide to pop back into the office to see my old buddies. Can I lawfully carry even though I know that the employee handbook forbids fireamrs in the office?
My own feeling is that I know the handbook and so should consider that 'written notice'.
Thoughts anyone?
4/13/1996 Completed CHL Class, 4/16/1996 Fingerprints, Affidavits, and Application Mailed, 10/4/1996 Received CHL, renewed 1998, 2002, 2006, 2011, 2016...). "ATF... Uhhh...heh...heh....Alcohol, tobacco, and GUNS!! Cool!!!!"
-
- Senior Member
- Posts in topic: 2
- Posts: 2807
- Joined: Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:36 am
- Location: Houston
Re: Ex-Employee revisiting old work place
Zee wrote:No matter what the law says I bet the employer would make a stink and you would be in a position to defend your actions. Some people automatically get all wound up when an ex-employee shows up armed. Go figure.
Does the word concealed have any meaning?
Byron Dickens
-
- Senior Member
- Posts in topic: 1
- Posts: 6134
- Joined: Wed Jan 12, 2005 1:31 pm
- Location: Allen, TX
Re: Ex-Employee revisiting old work place
When Alcatel laid me off some years back, I had home office materials to return, and boy was I tempted to suggest that they come and get them, or at least pay for packaging and postage, I did not feel one bit guilty going back there with a gun on my hip.
Real gun control, carrying 24/7/365
Re: Ex-Employee revisiting old work place
Absolutely correct Scott. Please forgive my oversight Kevin.ScottDLS wrote:You could have legally carried when you were an employee, although they could have fired you for violating company policy. Now they can't hold that over you. Carry away.
I am not and have never been a LEO. My avatar is in honor of my friend, Dallas Police Sargent Michael Smith, who was murdered along with four other officers in Dallas on 7.7.2016.
NRA Patriot-Endowment Lifetime Member---------------------------------------------Si vis pacem, para bellum.................................................Patriot Guard Rider
NRA Patriot-Endowment Lifetime Member---------------------------------------------Si vis pacem, para bellum.................................................Patriot Guard Rider
Re: Ex-Employee revisiting old work place
joe817 wrote:Who's to say you didn't forget?C-dub wrote:You are not an employee any longer. They have not given you proper notice. Carry away!
He doesnt need to forget. That was an employer/employee contract and he is no longer an employee, no 30-06 posted means carry away.
Re: Ex-Employee revisiting old work place
Verbal notice is verbal notice regardless of employment status.
I am not and have never been a LEO. My avatar is in honor of my friend, Dallas Police Sargent Michael Smith, who was murdered along with four other officers in Dallas on 7.7.2016.
NRA Patriot-Endowment Lifetime Member---------------------------------------------Si vis pacem, para bellum.................................................Patriot Guard Rider
NRA Patriot-Endowment Lifetime Member---------------------------------------------Si vis pacem, para bellum.................................................Patriot Guard Rider
-
- Banned
- Posts in topic: 1
- Posts: 1964
- Joined: Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:35 pm
- Location: Cedar Park/Austin
Re: Ex-Employee revisiting old work place
Zee wrote:No matter what the law says I bet the employer would make a stink and you would be in a position to defend your actions. Some people automatically get all wound up when an ex-employee shows up armed. Go figure.
In Capitalism, Man exploits Man. In Communism, it's just the reverse
-
- Senior Member
- Posts in topic: 2
- Posts: 5073
- Joined: Sun Jun 26, 2005 1:04 am
- Location: DFW Area, TX
Re: Ex-Employee revisiting old work place
Correct, but I didn't see the original poster mention verbal notice. He just said non-compliant written notice in employee manual and non-30.06 sign on doors.C-dub wrote:Verbal notice is verbal notice regardless of employment status.
4/13/1996 Completed CHL Class, 4/16/1996 Fingerprints, Affidavits, and Application Mailed, 10/4/1996 Received CHL, renewed 1998, 2002, 2006, 2011, 2016...). "ATF... Uhhh...heh...heh....Alcohol, tobacco, and GUNS!! Cool!!!!"