Fingerprinting
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Fingerprinting
I am currently trying to get my ducks in a row before taking my class. I take my class feb 6. My instructor will do the fingerprints he did them in a military. He stated that ink fingerprints are about 70%. He stated its all up to the examiner. He recommended this thing called FAST print that is digital and is 98 percent accurate. Well my question is in regards to scaring. I was in a car accident and on my left middle finger have a pretty bad scar. Will this be an issue with accuracy?
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Shouldn't be. There should be no one else that will have a scar that prints like that in that exact area on that finger, that have the rest of the prints you have.Shu wrote:I am currently trying to get my ducks in a row before taking my class. I take my class feb 6. My instructor will do the fingerprints he did them in a military. He stated that ink fingerprints are about 70%. He stated its all up to the examiner. He recommended this thing called FAST print that is digital and is 98 percent accurate. Well my question is in regards to scaring. I was in a car accident and on my left middle finger have a pretty bad scar. Will this be an issue with accuracy?
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In reality this is a better scenario than those that have missing fingers; at least this way they can get some type of print from your finger.
As for clarity, just make sure the instructor takes his time and that the prints are nice and sharp and they should pass with flying colors. If he is concerned about his print quality being accepted, then you may want to go to FAST and have them print you.
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To add to that..It might be a good idea to have the fingerprinter make a note on the card about the scar if possible.Keith B wrote: As for clarity, just make sure the instructor takes his time and that the prints are nice and sharp and they should pass with flying colors. If he is concerned about his print quality being accepted, then you may want to go to FAST and have them print you.
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Re: Fingerprinting
Many years ago I read about a criminal who tried to
shave his fingerprints off so that there were not the
usual ridges.
What he ended up with mutilated his fingertip pads, but
still provided LEO's with a unique set of prints with
which he could be ID'd!
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shave his fingerprints off so that there were not the
usual ridges.
What he ended up with mutilated his fingertip pads, but
still provided LEO's with a unique set of prints with
which he could be ID'd!
SIA
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I think the fingerprint cards have a list of what needs to be visible in the prints for them to pass. Just make sure the guy taking your prints looks at them afterwards and makes sure they are okay. I was worried about mine because I cut my thumb and had some dry skin/peeling, but they came out okay.
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I applied online at the end of May,2009. The class I signed up for was here in Arlington on July 18.
Having time to read as many posts here as possible, I learned so much. I'm grateful to the forum for that! It helped immensely during the classroom instruction. I had the written part down pat. The shooting portion didn't worry me at all. I knew I'd do good on it.
What worried me the MOST(and I really fretted about it) was my fingerprinting. Knowing that PD had LOTS of trouble fingerprinting me in the past(took 4 tries) I knew I'd better pay attention to details. So I asked if anything could be done to help. I think CrossFire is the one who suggested that I use "Corn Husker's" hand lotion on my hands because it plumps up the skin really well. I started using it 2 weeks before class. Used it 3 times/day.
About 30 minutes before the class started fingerprinting I used it again. 10 minutes before I had my fp's done, I washed my hands.
Apparently it worked. No hang ups at all. Thanks for the tip CrossFire!(I hope I got that right). Corn Husker's is great!![tiphat :tiphat:](./images/smilies/tiphat.gif)
Having time to read as many posts here as possible, I learned so much. I'm grateful to the forum for that! It helped immensely during the classroom instruction. I had the written part down pat. The shooting portion didn't worry me at all. I knew I'd do good on it.
What worried me the MOST(and I really fretted about it) was my fingerprinting. Knowing that PD had LOTS of trouble fingerprinting me in the past(took 4 tries) I knew I'd better pay attention to details. So I asked if anything could be done to help. I think CrossFire is the one who suggested that I use "Corn Husker's" hand lotion on my hands because it plumps up the skin really well. I started using it 2 weeks before class. Used it 3 times/day.
About 30 minutes before the class started fingerprinting I used it again. 10 minutes before I had my fp's done, I washed my hands.
Apparently it worked. No hang ups at all. Thanks for the tip CrossFire!(I hope I got that right). Corn Husker's is great!
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Yep, Cornhusker's lotion is the best. There is a "RidgeRaiser" product on the market just for fingerprinters. Costs about twice as much, and Cornhusker's still works better!
Glad to hear it worked out for you!
Glad to hear it worked out for you!
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I wish we'd known that a couple of years ago before Mrs. Oldgringo submitted four (4) sets of prints over a 160 day period before she got her plastic.
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I think I'm going to just go try the FAST fingerprinting service. Yeah it does cost something extra but I thought I'd see if it would reduce the hassle just a little bit as well.
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phrogg wrote:I think I'm going to just go try the FAST fingerprinting service. Yeah it does cost something extra but I thought I'd see if it would reduce the hassle just a little bit as well.
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I redid my fingerprints as well. I did the FAST service the second time - no issues.
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Is that statistic correct.... 70% sure sounds low. Crossfire did around ten of them for my group and I don't think any of them have been rejected. If 70% failure is an over all average, this makes Crossfire pretty darned good! ![Mr. Green :mrgreen:](./images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif)
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how long after processing did you all learn the prints were bad? I am a little worried about it. Took PD and the feds a few attempts before all was good.
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I did the FAST prints for a background check for the State Guard. They still got rejected once & had to be redone.
Nothing's 100% foolproof.
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All guns have at least two safeties. One's digital, one's cognitive. In other words - keep the digit off the trigger until ready to fire, and THINK. Some guns also have mechanical safeties on top of those. But if the first two don't work, the mechanical ones aren't guaranteed. - me
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That's because the fools are just so danged ingenious.quidni wrote:Nothing's 100% foolproof.
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Greetings. I've enjoyed reading all the post in this forum. Came across it after sending in my CHL application 07/02/10. And have been reading much more the longer I wait for my license to be issued. I am having the fingerprint rejection problem. Had my fingerprints done in the CHL class the old fashioned rolled on ink pad. They were rejected 07/30/10. Went to L-1 facility here in Tyler on 08/03/10. Everything looked good. The DPS CHL web site showed that the fingerprints were completed, and waiting for background check to be completed. This morning received an email from L-1 saying my fingerprints were rejected. Called DPS and they said that must be an error because their records indicate my license was sent for printing yesterday. The Customer Service rep said that was the second call she had received that morning regarding a false rejection. Called L-1 anyway and they said the FBI rejected prints, so I made an appointment to get them re-done tomorrow. Called DPS back to speak with another rep, and she transferred me to the same one I spoke to earlier. That rep said she was about to call me back because she found out from her supervisor that they had received notice this morning, as well, that the prints were rejected. Picked up a bottle of Corn Huskers hand lotion at Walmart this morning. But, I am not optimistic that the results tomorrow will be any better. I expect them to be rejected as well. At 55, and maybe from banging on a keyboard for 8 to 10 hours a day the past 15 years has caused my fingerprints to smooth out. Although I'm disappointed by this delay, twice, I'm determined to continue my pursuit to be certified. I think it is a privilege well worth the effort.