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CHL In An Open Carry State

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:42 pm
by Gunsmoke
Question: If a person is licenced to conceal carry in Texas, can they open carry in an open carry state like Kansas? I think not but am I wrong? :fire

Re: CHL In An Open Carry State

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:02 pm
by sjfcontrol
Gunsmoke wrote:Question: If a person is licenced to conceal carry in Texas, can they open carry in an open carry state like Kansas? I think not but am I wrong? :fire
If you're carrying under the reciprocal agreement with the other state, you must follow the laws of the state that you're in. If that state allows open carry with that states license, then you're good!

Re: CHL In An Open Carry State

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:19 pm
by Gunsmoke
Ok. Thanks for the reply. :fire

Re: CHL In An Open Carry State

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:25 pm
by Purplehood
To be a little more specific, you have to make sure that a reciprocal agreement exists in the first place. The devil is in the details.

Re: CHL In An Open Carry State

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:30 pm
by shootthesheet
The only exception that I know of is Indiana. The way their laws are written you can only carry according to what your license/permit is called. If "Concealed" is in the license an out of state person might not legally be able to open carry there. In Indiana the license is called or referred to as a License to Carry A Handgun. It doesn't specify concealed or open. In Indiana a license is required to carry open or concealed. This info is two years old so it is possible it has changed.

Re: CHL In An Open Carry State

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:40 pm
by sjfcontrol
shootthesheet wrote:The only exception that I know of is Indiana. The way their laws are written you can only carry according to what your license/permit is called. If "Concealed" is in the license an out of state person might not legally be able to open carry there. In Indiana the license is called or referred to as a License to Carry A Handgun. It doesn't specify concealed or open. In Indiana a license is required to carry open or concealed. This info is two years old so it is possible it has changed.
Hmm, interesting -- though I'd point out that you're STILL following the laws of the state that you're in. (Even if those laws reflect back to the issuing state.)

Re: CHL In An Open Carry State

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 5:29 pm
by boba
Gunsmoke wrote:Question: If a person is licenced to conceal carry in Texas, can they open carry in an open carry state like Kansas? I think not but am I wrong? :fire
I legally open carried in Arizona before I had a CHL. I don't think getting a CHL would take away that right.

I don't know anything about Kansas except not everything is flat.

Re: CHL In An Open Carry State

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 7:56 pm
by shootthesheet
sjfcontrol wrote:
shootthesheet wrote:The only exception that I know of is Indiana. The way their laws are written you can only carry according to what your license/permit is called. If "Concealed" is in the license an out of state person might not legally be able to open carry there. In Indiana the license is called or referred to as a License to Carry A Handgun. It doesn't specify concealed or open. In Indiana a license is required to carry open or concealed. This info is two years old so it is possible it has changed.
Hmm, interesting -- though I'd point out that you're STILL following the laws of the state that you're in. (Even if those laws reflect back to the issuing state.)
I didn't mean to suggest otherwise. Yes, the state you are in are the laws you follow. I was trying to remember the details as they were explained to me and didn't even think of how I started the post.

I only posted because it is unique, as far as I know, to have OC eligibility tied to what a issuing states license is called. A Texas CHL can get around this with a PA Non-Resident License to Carry. I hope you and others clearly understand THE POINT of the post now. Thank you for letting my know I was not clear.

Re: CHL In An Open Carry State

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 8:13 pm
by KFP
There are also a number of states in which OC is legal regardless of CHL status or reciprocity agreements.

Re: CHL In An Open Carry State

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:10 pm
by C-dub
Kansas allows OC without a license. Having a CHL from Texas allows one to CC and also some extra perks for OC that someone without a CHL or CCW, in Kansas, cannot. We can OC in our vehicles and some areas that are off limits to the unlicensed.

Check out some of the dos and don'ts at http://opencarry.org/ and http://ksccw.com/index.php

Re: CHL In An Open Carry State

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:59 pm
by cwohardy
C-dub wrote:Kansas allows OC without a license. Having a CHL from Texas allows one to CC and also some extra perks for OC that someone without a CHL or CCW, in Kansas, cannot. We can OC in our vehicles and some areas that are off limits to the unlicensed.

Check out some of the dos and don'ts at http://opencarry.org/ and http://ksccw.com/index.php
absolutely opencarry.org will answer your questions!

Re: CHL In An Open Carry State

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 9:07 pm
by C-dub
Well, I did say some. Just reading some of the posts there may answer many peoples questions just like here. However, I have asked two questions there and neither have been answered. Preaching to the choir here, but they are not the most friendly bunch. I don't know why, but they aren't. Some are very nice, but their members are spread around the country so much that there is an even wider set of personalities than there is here.

Re: CHL In An Open Carry State

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 9:22 pm
by tomc
Beware of assuming that the laws of the other states apply as if you had the other state's license. Indiana is one example of this. Reciprocity works both ways. If the state allows open carry with a license, remember you only have a license th carry concealed, thus open carry for you is not allowed. The same applies if you have a NSA license, revolver only. I understand this to mean that you can carry in a reciprocal state following their laws, but only with a revolver.

This is the way I understand this issue. I have checked with other states and have received info supporting this. No one has ever specifically indicated this is not so, except to express an opinion. So, be careful if you want to try. If I'm wrong, someone please provide specifics, not just an opinion.

Re: CHL In An Open Carry State

Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:40 am
by C-dub
Good point Tomc. Another example of this can be found in our own state. With my Texas CHL I can carry within 1,000 feet of a school, but someone with a recognized license from another state cannot.

Re: CHL In An Open Carry State

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 4:14 pm
by shootthesheet
tomc wrote:Beware of assuming that the laws of the other states apply as if you had the other state's license. Indiana is one example of this. Reciprocity works both ways. If the state allows open carry with a license, remember you only have a license th carry concealed, thus open carry for you is not allowed. The same applies if you have a NSA license, revolver only. I understand this to mean that you can carry in a reciprocal state following their laws, but only with a revolver.

This is the way I understand this issue. I have checked with other states and have received info supporting this. No one has ever specifically indicated this is not so, except to express an opinion. So, be careful if you want to try. If I'm wrong, someone please provide specifics, not just an opinion.
That is how I understand it. In order to obey their law we have to know enough about our own states license or non-residence license not to get into trouble. I mentioned carrying in Indiana on a PA LTC but I don't remember ever checking if IN law requires me to carry on my own states license though I have more than one. Something I need to do. Thank you for your post.