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Gun at work question.
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 10:08 am
by Bulldog1911
Hey guys I have a sort of legal question about carrying at work.
I work in an office building and employer has no firearm policy, no sings on the building so I am legal to carry at work. No problems there. We have two floors of the building and one floor has a room with some gym equipment. I typically use it a couple times week, and my wife and I jog a couple times a week. Here is my predicament. I just got my CHL and have been carrying for a whopping 3 days
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I haven't been into the gym(room) since I have been carrying, but would like to continue to use it. My question is what do i do with my gun. I can lock it up in a filing cabinet in my office, but I'm not sure of the legal ramifications there. With a CHL do I have to be in possession of the firearm at all times? Can i legally lock it up in my office and still be ok? Any insight would be appreciated.
P.S. sorry if this is in the wrong section, wasn't sure where to put it.
Re: Gun at work question.
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 10:16 am
by Teamless
Lock it up, you will be fine.
Re: Gun at work question.
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 10:53 am
by i8godzilla
Locked file cabinet, locked desk drawer, or the like should be no problem. If you are still a bit concerned maybe a trigger lock. Maybe a gun with a built in trigger lock such is found on many of
Taurus' guns.
Re: Gun at work question.
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 10:57 am
by Millerk420
I thought if the company has a no firearms policy then even if you are a CHL holder you can still be fired for carrying in the building. And the parking lot law just makes it regardless of the company policy the company cannot fire you for keeping it locked in your car.
Re: Gun at work question.
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 10:59 am
by Teamless
Millerk420 wrote: you can still be fired for carrying in the building
that is correct, but he is not being illegal in doing so, as his statement was
Bulldog1911 wrote:no sings on the building so I am legal to carry at work.
Re: Gun at work question.
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 11:08 am
by RottenApple
Millerk420 wrote:I thought if the company has a no firearms policy then even if you are a CHL holder you can still be fired for carrying in the building. And the parking lot law just makes it regardless of the company policy the company cannot fire you for keeping it locked in your car.
You are correct. But the OP said that his company "has no firearm policy", not 'has a no firearm policy". I.E. - They have no policy explicitly allowing or denying employees to carry or possess firearms while at work. My wife's company is the same way. of course, she rarely needs to go into the office anyway...
Re: Gun at work question.
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 11:42 am
by Millerk420
yep my bad, sorry, i did read that wrong. sorry about that.
Re: Gun at work question.
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 3:59 pm
by kjolly
I misread it also. Must be a great company. Mine has a "no firearms policy including CHL" they also claim the right to search your car and if you deny them the fun of searching they can terminate you. Since Texas is a at will state a company can fire you for any reason.
My advice is if you are carrying at work remember concealed is concealed. Keep quiet qabout it so they don't start a policy!
Re: Gun at work question.
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 6:02 pm
by BrianSW99
Try a Smart Carry holster. It works great under work out clothes. It's about the only time I use mine, but for carrying while jogging, it can't be beat for comfort.
Brian
Re: Gun at work question.
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 6:41 pm
by bkj
Are you sure there is not a policy? Have you read through the company policy manual? If they have a policy it is a class A misdemeanor
Re: Gun at work question.
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 6:49 pm
by The Mad Moderate
bkj wrote:Are you sure there is not a policy? Have you read through the company policy manual? If they have a policy it is a class A misdemeanor
Unless it is within the definition for 30.06 it is not a UCW charge, the worst that can happen is they fire you. Simply saying "no weapons on company policy" would not cut it.
Re: Gun at work question.
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 6:53 pm
by Kythas
My company policy is "No firearms unless authorized by the State in which you reside".
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Re: Gun at work question.
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 7:47 pm
by johnson0317
Uuugh. I work in hospitals and they both post 30.06 signs. The funny thing is, neither of them post valid signs. The lettering on all the signs, at both hospitals, is less than 1/2 inch in height. Don't have the heart, nor the desire, to tell the security folks that they have it wrong.
Re: Gun at work question.
Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:53 pm
by TexCHLFan
I would generally agree with the previous comments about locking the gun in your desk or filing cabinet while working out.
Having said that, I have worked in many an office (no jokes about not being able to hold a job!) and generally speaking, duplicate desk keys are usually available to administrative assistants, supervisors, etc. In my management positions, if Ii was working late and needed something that I knew was in someone elses office, I either get the spare key or get my admin to get the spare key and go in and get it (I usually always had a master key to get into the office door, but desks are usually keyed separately).
Locking your desk is usually intended to keep out cleaning crew or co-workers, but NOT someone with authority to get into your files, and otherwise items in your desk are either the property of or searchable by management or those with express authority.
Here is how I solved that problem for me when I want to lock the gun in my desk or file cabinet - - I bought a keyed gun case (available anywhere but I got it at Cabelas) and I DID NOT give the duplicate key to anyone else. I lock my gun inside this small gun locker (about the size of a large book, but it will hold my 1911),and then I lock that inside my desk or file cabinet. If my admin or someone else gets into my desk, they might see a locked box, and if anyone ever asks me what it inside (I doubt they would) I would simply say I kept some personal stuff in my desk from time to time and brought in a lock box to keep it in.
Your work situation might be different than mine - - but just wanted to share my process just in case you work in a similar situation.
Re: Gun at work question.
Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:01 pm
by Skiprr
TexCHLFan wrote:Here is how I solved that problem for me when I want to lock the gun in my desk or file cabinet - - I bought a keyed gun case (available anywhere but I got it at Cabelas) and I DID NOT give the duplicate key to anyone else. I lock my gun inside this small gun locker (about the size of a large book, but it will hold my 1911),and then I lock that inside my desk or file cabinet.
Excellent suggestion. I use similar small, hard-metal, locked gun cases in my car and when I travel.