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Another Texas School to allow concealed carry

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:06 pm
by treeman
See in the Longview paper that Union Grove ISD voted to allow concealed carry - by select administraters and employees - on campus. This will be after additional training. Great in my opinion except for, in my opinion, the fact that they are trying to decide if the weapons will be on the person or locked in an undisclosed location. I'm not for anywhere but on my person if I'm involved. They seemed to have stong community support at their public hearing according to the paper.

Re: Another Texas School to allow concealed carry

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:08 pm
by texanjoker
It's a start.

Re: Another Texas School to allow concealed carry

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:11 pm
by treeman
I understand there are some more in East Texas considering it. I know for a fact that our local school is looking at it and have been pleased with the initial response of the superintendant and school board.

Re: Another Texas School to allow concealed carry

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:15 pm
by RPB
http://www.news-journal.com/news/local/ ... mode=story" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Union Grove ISD OKs arming some teachers, administrators

Story+there's pictures of the meeting and parents raising hands etc

Thanks to KC5AV for providing the link
:tiphat: ;-)

Re: Another Texas School to allow concealed carry

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:19 pm
by C-dub
texanjoker wrote:It's a start.
:iagree: It's great that they have made the decision. I hope they allow them to keep them on their bodies. If they do not and something bad happens that they are unable to respond to because the gun is locked in a safe somewhere it will be terrible. I guess if they have them in safes that are bolted down in the approved teachers' classroom that would be better than not in the classroom.

Re: Another Texas School to allow concealed carry

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:29 pm
by ffemt300
Agreed. I think on carry on their person is a must. Locked up somewhere will do no good if you cant get to it.

Re: Another Texas School to allow concealed carry

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:00 pm
by KC5AV
Harmony ISD (I think) is another small district in the area that is looking at the same model that Union Grove is using... which is pretty much the same model that Harrold ISD used. The tide seems to be changing.

Re: Another Texas School to allow concealed carry

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:44 am
by Bugler
KC5AV wrote:...The tide seems to be changing.
It needs to. Beaumont ISD has it's own PD. Hopefully they will do a better job of protecting our children than the school board does of spending our money on other things. (The last part of the previous sentence is for a different forum.)

Re: Another Texas School to allow concealed carry

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:08 am
by packa45
On body IS the safest way to go... What are they going to do give everyone a key and then have a mad dash to the armory??? Yeah I'd want to run Unarmed across the campus with the gunmen shooting people as as they are running to the armory...THANKS BUT NO THANKS!!!

Re: Another Texas School to allow concealed carry

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:05 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
I may be wrong but I think the fear some have of carrying on their person stems from the fear that a student will somehow get ahold of the firearm. It may be a rational concern. Many high school students can easily overpower their teachers. Then you have the situation of a female teacher having the weapon in her purse. Where does she stash the purse?

While I am in favor of having concealed carry for teachers, there are real issues that need to be addressed. Having "designated" teachers as approved for carry, sounds pretty cool until you consider that you have just told every student who has the gun. Do they only choose teachers that know Kung foo?

The reason these are not issues with the general population is that people don't know who has a gun. We need to quit acting like fools and get rid of laws forbidding licensed concealed carry on school property.

Another issue... If a federal law forbids carry at schools, can state laws negate them?

Re: Another Texas School to allow concealed carry

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:38 pm
by baldeagle
texanjoker wrote:It's a start.
:iagree: :iagree:

We're making progress. ISDs are becoming aware that they can legally authorize carry now. As the awareness grows, more will allow it. I doubt it will ever happen in the big cities, but that's the price you pay for living in liberal land.

Re: Another Texas School to allow concealed carry

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:06 pm
by treeman
03 lightningrocks, the federal statute exempts state licensed concealed carry from their regulations and allows the particular state to go by their cc laws in regard to schools as I understand it.

Re: Another Texas School to allow concealed carry

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:17 pm
by treeman
By saying designated teachers allowed to carry, I think that has to be designated by the governing authority (i.e. school board/superintendant) but certainly not a public or even school-wide designation. I understand the difficulty in keeping secrets in a small public school, but hopefully the superintendant and board will realize the sensitivity of this and do everything to keep "designated persons" a secret - to the point of not having training "in house" or even not having every "designated" ones go the same time for training. A locked box in a room is certainly a giveaway too.

Re: Another Texas School to allow concealed carry

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:55 pm
by brucesw2
You can add Ganado I.S.D. to the list they will allow teachers to carry with a chl and advanced training that is in the process of being worked out

Re: Another Texas School to allow concealed carry

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:06 pm
by SF18C
I do hope more ISDs will look into this!

I do think teachers and school admins should have more training that the average CHL carrier and the issue of "where will the gun be located?" needs to be looked at! A biometric safe in the teachers desk might be one alternative???

My daughter is home schooled but does take part in activities at our local High School. I plan to ask about this at the next board meeting.