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Cameron Park Zoo in Waco- posted?

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:28 am
by flechero
Can anyone confirm the status of Cameron Park Zoo? I didn't see it on 30.06.com but want to check before I head up to Waco with the family.

Thanks!

Re: Cameron Park Zoo in Waco- posted?

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 10:08 am
by RPB
I didn't check countyv tax rolls etc but
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cameron_Park_Zoo" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Cameron Park covers 416 acres (168 ha), and is one of the largest municipal parks in Texas.

however
http://www.cameronparkzoo.com/donate/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Cameron Park Zoological and Botanical Society is the non-profit side of the Zoo. The Society allows the Zoo to function as a 501 c 3 organization
I found no "applicable" "rules" regarding firearms etc on website I didn't read entire site...but don't bring pets
http://www.cameronparkzoo.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

:confused5

Re: Cameron Park Zoo in Waco- posted?

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 10:10 am
by dicion
RPB wrote:I didn't check countyv tax rolls etc but
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cameron_Park_Zoo" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Cameron Park covers 416 acres (168 ha), and is one of the largest municipal parks in Texas.

however
http://www.cameronparkzoo.com/donate/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Cameron Park Zoological and Botanical Society is the non-profit side of the Zoo. The Society allows the Zoo to function as a 501 c 3 organization
:confused5
For a second there, I wondered why you were laughing at it being 418 acres 168 times...
... Then I got it. :banghead: "rlol"

Re: Cameron Park Zoo in Waco- posted?

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 11:09 am
by flechero
Thanks for the info.... I'll report findings tonight. I'll find out for sure in about an hour!

Re: Cameron Park Zoo in Waco- posted?

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 4:49 pm
by flechero
On the odd chance anyone else was curious- there is no signage of any kind, related to firearms. (not even a gunbuster sign)

Had a nice time and the weather was great all afternoon!!

Re: Cameron Park Zoo in Waco- posted?

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 5:45 pm
by ajwakeboarder
Thanks for the heads up. I might take my girlfriend there the next time she comes to visit.

Re: Cameron Park Zoo in Waco- posted?

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 9:13 pm
by BAW1967
Looking at the SpiritsTexas app, it shows that at the zoo you can not carry there. Anyone know for sure, going there tomorrow. Thanks.

Re: Cameron Park Zoo in Waco- posted?

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 7:42 am
by Jason K
http://www.texas3006.com/view.php?poste ... tion_type=+" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Not listed.....city property....should be good to go.

Re: Cameron Park Zoo in Waco- posted?

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 9:16 am
by Keith B
Jason K wrote:http://www.texas3006.com/view.php?poste ... tion_type=+

Not listed.....city property....should be good to go.
Actually, you may not be good to go. The Cameron Park Zoological and Botanical Society holds the liquor license for the location. The TABC site shows it as a RED license. Depending on the area defined by the license for the sale and consumption of alcohol, it could be the whole zoo area. I personally believe this license is probably in error as I really doubt the non-profit takes in more than 51% of their income from the sale of alcohol. Someone needs to challenge this one with TABC and request they investigate the receipts and make a determination of 51% or not. Additionally, when you call the TABC office they can pull the records and tell you what area is defined on the license. Until that is determined the entire zoo should be considered off-limits for carry. :banghead:
License #: MB747982

Trade Name: CAMERON PARK ZOOLOGICAL AND BOTANICAL SOCIETY
Owner: CAMERON PARK ZOOLOGICAL AND BOTANICAL SO
Location Address: 1701 N 4TH STREET
WACO , TX 76707

County: McLennan Orig. Issue Date: 5/11/2010
Status: Current Exp. Date: 5/10/2014
Wine Percent:
Location Phone No.: 254 750-8400

Subordinates:
Related To: Gun Sign: RED

Re: Cameron Park Zoo in Waco- posted?

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:17 pm
by Scott in Houston
Oh wow... I've carried in there several times. Uh... err... I mean my friend has.

It's the best zoo in the state IMO. I take my daughter every time we go up there for Baylor stuff, and the weather cooperates. Good stuff! Great zoo! You get closer to many animals than you ever do at larger city zoos.

Re: Cameron Park Zoo in Waco- posted?

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:34 pm
by Keith B
I have a call in to the TABC currently to get some details and request they check the type of license the Zoo has been issued.

Re: Cameron Park Zoo in Waco- posted?

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 3:27 pm
by MotherBear
Scott in Houston wrote:Oh wow... I've carried in there several times. Uh... err... I mean my friend has.

It's the best zoo in the state IMO. I take my daughter every time we go up there for Baylor stuff, and the weather cooperates. Good stuff! Great zoo! You get closer to many animals than you ever do at larger city zoos.
Sic 'em, Bears! One of my favorite zoos, too. Just the right size for a day with the kids, and while it may not be huge what they do have is very well done. I especially like the Brazos River exhibit. I've taken the kids a time or three, but not yet since I got my CHL. Will be interested to see what Keith hears back. I love Waco, lived there four years without incident, but it's the sort of place I find that uncomfortable lump in my waistband to be comforting.

Re: Cameron Park Zoo in Waco- posted?

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 3:40 pm
by Keith B
OK, hate to be the 'bear'er of bad news, but there is no specific area defined on the license so the whole premise is off limits. :banghead:

Apparently the license went to RED when they renewed the application in 2010 due to the way they reported the alcohol sales revenue. I have requested an officer check the location and advise the zoo they need to correct the numbers for total revenue vs. alcohol sales in an effort to get the license changed to blue. If not, then the zoo will be required to post 51% signs at all of their entrances. :grumble

Re: Cameron Park Zoo in Waco- posted?

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 4:05 pm
by Scott in Houston
Keith B wrote:OK, hate to be the 'bear'er of bad news, but there is no specific area defined on the license so the whole premise is off limits. :banghead:

Apparently the license went to RED when they renewed the application in 2010 due to the way they reported the alcohol sales revenue. I have requested an officer check the location and advise the zoo they need to correct the numbers for total revenue vs. alcohol sales in an effort to get the license changed to blue. If not, then the zoo will be required to post 51% signs at all of their entrances. :grumble
Keith B wrote:OK, hate to be the 'bear'er of bad news, but there is no specific area defined on the license so the whole premise is off limits. :banghead:

Apparently the license went to RED when they renewed the application in 2010 due to the way they reported the alcohol sales revenue. I have requested an officer check the location and advise the zoo they need to correct the numbers for total revenue vs. alcohol sales in an effort to get the license changed to blue. If not, then the zoo will be required to post 51% signs at all of their entrances. :grumble
Thanks for following up on this! What a cluster.
I think there's something odd with TABC down there. The establishment known as "George's" was improperly posted for a long time. I started a thread about here long ago...

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=50542&p=616130&hili ... ge#p615805" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

TABC responded to me several times saying they would follow up, but never have. I think George's still has their signs posted as shown in the thread.
They are a 'blue' location.

Re: Cameron Park Zoo in Waco- posted?

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 5:39 pm
by MotherBear
Keith B wrote:OK, hate to be the 'bear'er of bad news, but there is no specific area defined on the license so the whole premise is off limits. :banghead:

Apparently the license went to RED when they renewed the application in 2010 due to the way they reported the alcohol sales revenue. I have requested an officer check the location and advise the zoo they need to correct the numbers for total revenue vs. alcohol sales in an effort to get the license changed to blue. If not, then the zoo will be required to post 51% signs at all of their entrances. :grumble
Booo! Thanks for finding out, though. I had figured on taking the kid sometime this year, but I don't want to run afoul of a 51% location. Ugh.