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My brother and I are about to look at the Sneaky Pete holsters and the small hanguns that fit it. Do you guys see any legal problems with this for CHL holders?

So long as it covers the gun entirely it is perfectly legal. Wouldn't be my personal choice, but to each their own. Most important that you are comfortable with it. Really no different than a fanny pack in some regards.

I went to their site and from what I could tell they make them only for sub compact handguns.

If they made them for Glock 19's, I'd buy one.

They look comfortable and don't scream gun.

To me they look like a binocular/camera case.

Ultra nerdy looking, but who cares...?

I bought a ruger .380 a while back and a sneaky pete came along with the gun and i must say it looked like a blackberry case. 90% of people won't notice the 10% who may notice will probably ask and i said its a new blackberry that my company gave and a simple "ohh okay" or "or ohh that sucks" (having company phone) and never anything more.... I bet LEO's will also notice it too but shouldn't be a big deal unless you unknowingly carry past a magic sign.....

So where do you carry your cell phone?

I dont like how hard it would be to draw from. In an intense moment if you needed to draw I can see fumbling, or even worse pulling the trigger in attempt to get it out. No thanks. Carry IWB with a minituck and never worry about it. I carry my shield in a crossbreed minituck at 3-4 o clock on my waist with fitted shirts and it fully conceals.. I'm 5' 10'' 170 with an athletic build.

I have had mine for a few months and while it isn't my everyday carry holster (I have several different ones) I really like the Sneaky Pete the best. Practice drawing with it makes me more confident carrying with it. Who cares if it is rather large, no one can see what is in it.

crice8 wrote:I dont like how hard it would be to draw from. In an intense moment if you needed to draw I can see fumbling, or even worse pulling the trigger in attempt to get it out. No thanks. Carry IWB with a minituck and never worry about it. I carry my shield in a crossbreed minituck at 3-4 o clock on my waist with fitted shirts and it fully conceals.. I'm 5' 10'' 170 with an athletic build.

I'm 6'1" 240 lbs. and a tad plump. I carry my SR9c in a crossbreed super tuck at 3-4 o clock with fitted shirts and pants that are often a little too tight. (I keep thinking I'll drop a few lbs.)
I had trouble at first and carried in a deep concealed Ultra the first winter. Summer came and I had to find something different. I kept trying and finally got used to IWB. Wouldn't do it any different now.


Edit: Put the "r" in shirts.

Might as well carry a fanny pack.

This looks more appealing than a fanny pack.
I want one but drawing from it concerns me. Most of the time I read stories about CHL close encounters with a bad guy they mention resting their hand on their handgun or reaching under their shirt preemptively when danger is imminent... Couldn't do that with this without exposing to the world you have a firearm.

nyj wrote:Might as well carry a fanny pack.

TrackinPat wrote:This looks more appealing than a fanny pack.
I want one but drawing from it concerns me. Most of the time I read stories about CHL close encounters with a bad guy they mention resting their hand on their handgun or reaching under their shirt preemptively when danger is imminent... Couldn't do that with this without exposing to the world you have a firearm.

Hey, y'all stop knockin' the mighty fanny pack! It's not my primary carry method, but when I'm out for a walk (or headed to Weight Watchers for my weigh in) wearing workout clothes, or riding my bicycle, or something like that, I carry one of my smaller guns in a fanny pack. I forgot who made it (label is long gone), but it is extremely well made, and I've had it for a lot more years than I've had a CHL. Sure, it's obvious to someone who knows what to look for, but truly, nobody really notices or cares, and it meets the legal requirements for concealment. It is yanked open very quickly to access the gun by means of a lanyard hanging out of one corner of it. You yank on that, and it "speed-opens" the zipper, exposing the gun very quickly. It's probably not as fast as the regular OWB holsters I use, but it is still fairly accessible.

I am old enough and grumpy enough that I don't give a rat's patootie what anyone thinks about the way I dress or wear my whiskers. They can think whatever they want; but they don't know anything, and they won't know anything until I open the fanny pack. . . . .and I'm not opening it as long as everyone is on their best behavior.

I once saw an older guy, about my age or maybe a few years older, at the local Lowes near my house a couple of years ago. He and his wife were looking at the same gas grills my wife and I were looking at. He was wearing sandals, black socks, denim shorts, and a yellow t-shirt, tucked in. Over those items, he had on both a matching denim "shoot me first" vest and a fanny pack. I just smiled at him and though, "you go boy!" He obviously didn't care what anybody thought about his sartorial choices. And the truth is, as a CHLer myself, I didn't know what he had in that fanny pack or under his vest. He could have had a Glock 36 in the fanny pack and a Glock 21 in a shoulder-holster under his vest, for all I know. OR. . . . . .he could have had some Lowes coupons in the fanny pack, and nothing under the vest. All three ways of trying to find out that I can think of would have been extremely rude: ask him, pat him down, pull a gun on him. . . . .none of which would have been a wise choice against a person who obviously doesn't care about what people think about him anymore than I care about what people think about me.

Unlike others here on this forum, I think fanny packs rock. They are NOT the best primary carry choice. A belt holster is always going to trump anything else. But given circumstances and clothing, and the activities involved, a fanny pack is a perfectly legitimate way to carry.

Given that the Sneaky Pete fulfills essentially the same function but in a more "upscale" way, I'd have no problem with it, if that's what floats your boat. But just like with a fanny pack, the Sneaky Pete is not going to be as sound of a method of carrying as a decent IWB/OWB holster.

The thing with fanny packs in the 21st century is that anyone wearing one is obviously carrying a gun

nyj wrote:The thing with fanny packs in the 21st century is that anyone wearing one is obviously carrying a gun

Or they're an extreme couponer!
Or they have a pager!

I agree with TAM though, they ARE sound ways to carry, maybe not the BEST, but under circumstances they might be.

TrackinPat wrote:

nyj wrote:The thing with fanny packs in the 21st century is that anyone wearing one is obviously carrying a gun

Or they're an extreme couponer!
Or they have a pager!

I agree with TAM though, they ARE sound ways to carry, maybe not the BEST, but under circumstances they might be.

nyj, my point is that to you, that's someone you think is carrying a gun. You might be right, but until you actually see the gun, it isn't anything more than an educated guess, so you can't know. . . . . .and you're a gun guy. "Educated guess" ≠ "know."

We are somewhat over half a million CHLers in a state of 26 million people. That is a tick under 2% of the total population. And then consider that most CHLs don't carry 24/7. Most of us that do are probably inclined to be observant that way, but even that isn't a guarantee. A small percentage of the population are predators, and of them, most are focused on the sheep, and a few are looking for sheepdogs. Those that are looking for sheepdogs might notice the fanny pack and what it means, but even they can't know until they see the gun. They can only suspect. An even tinier minority are going to be LEOs.

Of the remaining 96-97% of the people out there, they are oblivious. They are not thinking about guns. They are not thinking about armed people around them. They are living in the "all is well and safe" zone. They are utterly unprepared for the possibility, however slim, of violence erupting around them, and they certainly aren't looking for signs of someone around them with a concealed firearm.

I only continue to point these things out because whatever applies to fanny packs also applies to the "Sneaky Pete" holster in the title of this thread. But at the end of the day, I truly don't care what somebody else thinks they know.

I am a regular user of both the fanny pack and the "photographer's" vest when I carry. When I observe other folks similarly attired I always use Schrödinger's cat. Until you open the theoretical box, both propositions, gun/no gun, have equal weight.
As an aside, since I've not seen one worn over the fanny in an urban environment in 30 years, why don't we call them groin packs?
When I wear my skirt I call it a sporran. And yes, the 3" 1911 fits in a daywear sporran perfectly, with room for an extra magazine.