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Business with Incorrect TABC Signage
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:30 am
by bigity
What is the procedure/policy if a business posts the wrong type of TABC sign. If the state website shows a blue sign, but they posted a 51% red sign? Are we supposed to abide by the signage posted, or by the actual status of the business?
Is this typically a mistake, or are business putting up the wrong sign on purpose?
Re: Business with Incorrect TABC Signage
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:40 am
by Hola Gato
I would report the error to TABC.
https://www.tabc.state.tx.us/enforcemen ... cation.asp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Business with Incorrect TABC Signage
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 12:43 pm
by TheDude
I walked into the now out of business Majestic liquor store on Trinity Mills, only to find a %51 sign on the front door. Lol. I tried explaining to the manager only to have him tell me that the TABC posts those signs for them and that I would have to talk to them.
I emailed the TABC and got a response the next day saying that they had talked to the manager of the store and the sign was no longer up. The TABC seems to respond relatively quickly when you notify them.
Oh and to answer your question you go by their license not the sign. So you would be ok to walk past the sign but you really should report it.
Re: Business with Incorrect TABC Signage
Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 8:34 am
by birdman253
I have reported a couple of restaurants that had 51% signs posted incorrectly, and in a few days the signs magically were replaced with the "Blue" signs. I never got a response from TABC, but evidently they paid the managers a visit.
Re: Business with Incorrect TABC Signage
Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:44 am
by suthdj
Btw there is an app for this also.
Re: Business with Incorrect TABC Signage
Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:41 am
by Vol Texan
suthdj wrote:Btw there is an app for this also.
Can you share? Inquiring minds want to know.
Re: Business with Incorrect TABC Signage
Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:51 am
by Pawpaw
Vol Texan wrote:suthdj wrote:Btw there is an app for this also.
Can you share? Inquiring minds want to know.
Looks like Android only:
http://www.tabc.state.tx.us/mobileapps/
Re: Business with Incorrect TABC Signage
Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:54 am
by ralewis
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/spirits ... 21055?mt=8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Here's the Iphone app. Very useful.
Re: Business with Incorrect TABC Signage
Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:30 am
by MoJo
TheDude wrote:
I walked into the now out of business Majestic liquor store on Trinity Mills, only to find a %51 sign on the front door. Lol. I tried explaining to the manager only to have him tell me that the TABC posts those signs for them and that I would have to talk to them.
I emailed the TABC and got a response the next day saying that they had talked to the manager of the store and the sign was no longer up. The TABC seems to respond relatively quickly when you notify them.
Oh and to answer your question you go by their license not the sign. So you would be ok to walk past the sign but you really should report it.
Even if posted incorrectly, go by the sign unless you like riding in the back seat of a police cruiser wearing handcuffs. The nice policeman will go by the sign and let the lawyers and judges sort it all out. It ain't worth the hassle or the 10-20 grand you will spend defending yourself.

Re: Business with Incorrect TABC Signage
Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:44 am
by gringo pistolero
Definitely follow the sign if you're bad at concealing.

Re: Business with Incorrect TABC Signage
Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 3:59 pm
by Pawpaw
How does that app help you report incorrect sinage?

Re: Business with Incorrect TABC Signage
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 9:04 am
by bigity
MoJo wrote:TheDude wrote:
I walked into the now out of business Majestic liquor store on Trinity Mills, only to find a %51 sign on the front door. Lol. I tried explaining to the manager only to have him tell me that the TABC posts those signs for them and that I would have to talk to them.
I emailed the TABC and got a response the next day saying that they had talked to the manager of the store and the sign was no longer up. The TABC seems to respond relatively quickly when you notify them.
Oh and to answer your question you go by their license not the sign. So you would be ok to walk past the sign but you really should report it.
Even if posted incorrectly, go by the sign unless you like riding in the back seat of a police cruiser wearing handcuffs. The nice policeman will go by the sign and let the lawyers and judges sort it all out. It ain't worth the hassle or the 10-20 grand you will spend defending yourself.

That was my thought as well. I'll go somewhere else and make a note to report the incorrect sign. Thanks all.
Re: Business with Incorrect TABC Signage
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:50 am
by android
There is no provision for a business to post the wrong sign. The TABC regs say the sign must match the sign color stated on the license.
I don't even bother talking to the business, just fill out the complaint form and email. If you include you email address, TABC will usually send a short response telling you the matter has been addressed.
Re: Business with Incorrect TABC Signage
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:37 am
by Abraham
Would this signage confusion not be confusion, but an attempt by an anti-gun store manager to keep guns out of his store?
At least, in some cases?
Re: Business with Incorrect TABC Signage
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:52 pm
by ralewis
Pawpaw wrote:
How does that app help you report incorrect sinage?

It provides you with the information of what the signage should be, which is what's really important. Who cares if they post the wrong sign.
And I was specifically responding to a prior comment about 'android only' for an app.