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Re: Homeowner returns fire at teens in car
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 10:01 pm
by MONGOOSE
They were driving away ........firing on fleeing suspects is a Bozo No No
Re: Homeowner returns fire at teens in car
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 10:14 pm
by srothstein
koine2002 wrote:MONGOOSE wrote:They were driving away ........firing on fleeing suspects is a Bozo No No
Oh I agree.
In this case, I disagree. The article states that they were shooting while driving away. This makes returning fire quite legal. I think I would prefer to take cover and let them go, but I cannot say this for sure. I also cannot say he is wrong for not doing so.
Re: Homeowner returns fire at teens in car
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 10:15 pm
by Keith B
Depends. They could have still been a threat if they had the gun pointing back toward the victim. Without additional info we don't know for sure.
Re: Homeowner returns fire at teens in car
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 10:23 pm
by MONGOOSE
I wasn't there....as you say...we will have to await the final outcome
Re: Homeowner returns fire at teens in car
Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2015 9:33 am
by winters
I think if they are firing at you then you have the right to return it back. BUT, you had better hit someone who was actually firing the guns not just someone sitting in the car. just my opinion.
I had a kid point his bb gun at me once I warned him he was about to find out what a real bullet can do. He ran off pretty quick.
Re: Homeowner returns fire at teens in car
Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2015 9:38 am
by MONGOOSE
I'd like to see all the kids punished with attempted murder. However, I think the best action would have been to take cover and protect yourself,,,,,hopefully get a plate # and call it in. I'm just glad to hear the gentleman is ok
Re: Homeowner returns fire at teens in car
Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2015 9:41 am
by Taypo
winters wrote:I think if they are firing at you then you have the right to return it back. BUT, you had better hit someone who was actually firing the guns not just someone sitting in the car. just my opinion.
Doesn't Texas have a law that allows for everyone in a group to be charged with a crime? If they do, this is a moot point...
I think he's OK legally for returning fire, especially in this state. Morally, that's a matter of personal opinion.
Re: Homeowner returns fire at teens in car
Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2015 9:47 am
by MONGOOSE
I believe they all can be charged but you can't just pray and spay back.....might be wrong .
Re: Homeowner returns fire at teens in car
Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2015 9:51 am
by Taypo
MONGOOSE wrote:I believe they all can be charged but you can't just pray and spay back.....might be wrong .
Per the article, he fired a single round and struck a criminal. How exactly is that "pray and spray?". It's exactly the opposite - a dang good shot.
Re: Homeowner returns fire at teens in car
Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2015 10:02 am
by ELB
Taypo wrote: ...
Doesn't Texas have a law that allows for everyone in a group to be charged with a crime? ...
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Yes, a "law of the parties" or specifically "Parties to Offenses" law.
PC Chapter 7, if I am not mistaken.
Re: Homeowner returns fire at teens in car
Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2015 10:11 am
by Taypo
ELB wrote:Taypo wrote: ...
Doesn't Texas have a law that allows for everyone in a group to be charged with a crime? ...
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Yes, a "law of the parties" or specifically "Parties to Offenses" law.
PC Chapter 7, if I am not mistaken.
Thanks for the cite.
Re: Homeowner returns fire at teens in car
Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2015 10:16 am
by MONGOOSE
In his case he didn't. I was saying in general.
Re: Homeowner returns fire at teens in car
Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2015 10:32 am
by c.edgington
Taypo wrote:MONGOOSE wrote:I believe they all can be charged but you can't just pray and spay back.....might be wrong .
Per the article, he fired a single round and struck a criminal. How exactly is that "pray and spray?". It's exactly the opposite - a dang good shot.
