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Last night, I was at Grand Prairie's meeting about the new Open Carry laws and Chief Dye brought up an interesting point about using a Sticky or Remora holsters for Open Carry. The new law says that Open Carry must be in either a shoulder holster or in holster that attaches to belt. Since those types of holsters don't actually attach to your belt, they are not legal for Open Carry. I understand that most people aren't using that style of holster for Open Carry but, I could see someone conceal carrying then removing their concealment garment so that the person is now open carrying in a holster not attached to belt so in violation of the law.

Thoughts?

Good point.
I guess it is what it is.

stephenn wrote:Last night, I was at Grand Prairie's meeting about the new Open Carry laws and Chief Dye brought up an interesting point about using a Sticky or Remora holsters for Open Carry. The new law says that Open Carry must be in either a shoulder holster or in holster that attaches to belt. Since those types of holsters don't actually attach to your belt, they are not legal for Open Carry. I understand that most people aren't using that style of holster for Open Carry but, I could see someone conceal carrying then removing their concealment garment so that the person is now open carrying in a holster not attached to belt so in violation of the law.

Thoughts?

The law doesn't say "attaches to the belt" and belt/shoulder holsters aren't defined. Every other LEO I've heard has gone the other way on the issue of wearing something closely resembling a belt holster.

stephenn wrote:Last night, I was at Grand Prairie's meeting about the new Open Carry laws and Chief Dye brought up an interesting point about using a Sticky or Remora holsters for Open Carry. The new law says that Open Carry must be in either a shoulder holster or in holster that attaches to belt. Since those types of holsters don't actually attach to your belt, they are not legal for Open Carry. I understand that most people aren't using that style of holster for Open Carry but, I could see someone conceal carrying then removing their concealment garment so that the person is now open carrying in a holster not attached to belt so in violation of the law.

Thoughts?

As I understand them Sticky and Remora holsters are designed for pocket carry and are not suitable for open carry.
IANAL, but IMO if you concealed carried using one of these holsters and then removed your concealment garment you would be in violation of the law.
If a person wants to open carry, they need to purchase and wear the correct type of holster.

WildBill wrote:

stephenn wrote:Last night, I was at Grand Prairie's meeting about the new Open Carry laws and Chief Dye brought up an interesting point about using a Sticky or Remora holsters for Open Carry. The new law says that Open Carry must be in either a shoulder holster or in holster that attaches to belt. Since those types of holsters don't actually attach to your belt, they are not legal for Open Carry. I understand that most people aren't using that style of holster for Open Carry but, I could see someone conceal carrying then removing their concealment garment so that the person is now open carrying in a holster not attached to belt so in violation of the law.

Thoughts?

As I understand them Sticky and Remora holsters are for pocket carry and are not suitable for open carry.
IANAL, but IMO if you concealed carried using one of these holsters and then removed your concealment garment you would be in violation of the law.
If a person wants to open carry, they need to purchase and wear the correct type of holster.

Actually, they are designed to either be used in a pocket or IWB. It's the pressure and friction of the belt, pants and body that holds it in place.

http://www.remoraholsterstore.com/Articles.asp?ID=259

mojo84 wrote:

WildBill wrote:

stephenn wrote:Last night, I was at Grand Prairie's meeting about the new Open Carry laws and Chief Dye brought up an interesting point about using a Sticky or Remora holsters for Open Carry. The new law says that Open Carry must be in either a shoulder holster or in holster that attaches to belt. Since those types of holsters don't actually attach to your belt, they are not legal for Open Carry. I understand that most people aren't using that style of holster for Open Carry but, I could see someone conceal carrying then removing their concealment garment so that the person is now open carrying in a holster not attached to belt so in violation of the law.

Thoughts?

As I understand them Sticky and Remora holsters are for pocket carry and are not suitable for open carry.
IANAL, but IMO if you concealed carried using one of these holsters and then removed your concealment garment you would be in violation of the law.
If a person wants to open carry, they need to purchase and wear the correct type of holster.

Actually, they are designed to either be used in a pocket or IWB. It's the pressure and friction of the belt, pants and body that holds it in place.

http://www.remoraholsterstore.com/Articles.asp?ID=259

I wasn't aware that they had so many holster options. Thanks for pointing that out to me.
Personally, I would not wear an IWB or OWB holster that relies solely on pressure and friction to hold it in place.

Must say I disagree with this LEO's decision/interpretation of the new law. I like how my Remoras can be carried fairly deep IWB yet still easily accessible to me. Would be same as any other holster without a retention strap.

This is the part that worries so much - LEO's and many others either have a poor understanding of the law or make their own interpretation or "local" beliefs.

I'll never forget the conversation I heard in a pawn shop between a local detective and another customer. I cringed when the detective told the person that pawnshop guns are great bargains and safe to own since pawnshops have FFLs and will register the gun in the purchaser's name with the state.

remora has a version with a belt clip. This would qualify as a belt holster.