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Injured deer likely kicked, killed hunter
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:37 am
by 10Shooter
"A Fort Wayne man died Monday after struggling with a wounded deer during a deer reduction hunt at Chain O’Lakes State Park in Albion, state officials said."
by Dominic Adams with The Journal Gazette
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So be careful out there!
Re: Injured deer likely kicked, killed hunter
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:39 am
by Oldgringo
What goes around comes around, eh?
The Score:
Unarmed Deer - 1
Armed Man - 0
Re: Injured deer likely kicked, killed hunter
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:55 am
by The Annoyed Man
He died of stupidity. He shot the deer. Why didn't he just shoot it again? Why did he feel like he needed to get in close and use a knife to dispatch it? Just shoot it again. Stupidity is often painful and sometimes fatal. That's as it should be.
I considering myself a (currently non practicing for financial reasons) hunter. I have no problem with the shooting the deer part. But if you wound an animal, you have an ethical responsibility to dispatch it as quickly as possible. Sacrifice the trophy, and put a round in its head. Quicker for the deer, and less dangerous to the hunter. You owe the deer that much.
Re: Injured deer likely kicked, killed hunter
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:10 pm
by speedsix
...agreed...saw a video the other day where an LEO picked up a doe that was standing in the middle of the road for awhile, carried it over to the side, and sat it down...ain't no way I'd ever do that...it'd be like being attacked by a steam-powered meat tenderizer...but the doe didn't attack...
Re: Injured deer likely kicked, killed hunter
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:28 pm
by i8godzilla
The Annoyed Man wrote:He died of stupidity. He shot the deer. Why didn't he just shoot it again? Why did he feel like he needed to get in close and use a knife to dispatch it? Just shoot it again. Stupidity is often painful and sometimes fatal. That's as it should be.
I considering myself a (currently non practicing for financial reasons) hunter. I have no problem with the shooting the deer part. But if you wound an animal, you have an ethical responsibility to dispatch it as quickly as possible. Sacrifice the trophy, and put a round in its head. Quicker for the deer, and less dangerous to the hunter. You owe the deer that much.
I was thinking the exact thing. So far this season, we have harvested three deer. Only one was an
instant kill. Not that we are bad shots but being off by a mere inch can be a big difference. Of the other two my son dispatched both with shots from his sidearm. There is no reason to go and try and play Rambo with a knife. If you really need a trophy get a better taxidermist!
Re: Injured deer likely kicked, killed hunter
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:35 pm
by fishman
You don't even have to make a head shot to finish off a deer, just shoot another heart/lung shot. It will die quickly.
Re: Injured deer likely kicked, killed hunter
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 2:46 pm
by Jumping Frog
The Annoyed Man wrote:He died of stupidity. He shot the deer. Why didn't he just shoot it again?
Perhaps he was bow hunting or using a muzzleloader?
Re: Injured deer likely kicked, killed hunter
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:31 pm
by OldCannon
The Annoyed Man wrote:He died of stupidity. He shot the deer. Why didn't he just shoot it again? Why did he feel like he needed to get in close and use a knife to dispatch it? Just shoot it again. Stupidity is often painful and sometimes fatal. That's as it should be.
"Stupidity cannot be cured with money, or through education, or by legislation. Stupidity is not a sin, the victim can't help being stupid. But stupidity is the only universal capital crime: the sentence is death, there is no appeal, and execution is carried out automatically and without pity."
Robert A. Heinlein, Time Enough For Love
Re: Injured deer likely kicked, killed hunter
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:54 pm
by Oldgringo
OldCannon wrote:The Annoyed Man wrote:He died of stupidity. He shot the deer. Why didn't he just shoot it again? Why did he feel like he needed to get in close and use a knife to dispatch it? Just shoot it again. Stupidity is often painful and sometimes fatal. That's as it should be.
"Stupidity cannot be cured with money, or through education, or by legislation. Stupidity is not a sin, the victim can't help being stupid. But stupidity is the only universal capital crime: the sentence is death, there is no appeal, and execution is carried out automatically and without pity."
Robert A. Heinlein, Time Enough For Love
Back in my hunting days, I knocked down a goose over an alfalfa field and then proceeded to run it down. Rather than shoot it again, I decided to ring it's neck, kinda' like you'd do a quail or a dove or even a pheasant. Wild geese, even wounded ones, don't like having their necks rung.
As TAM said above, the game and the fowl deserve a fitting and immediate
coup de grâce.
Re: Injured deer likely kicked, killed hunter
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:42 pm
by Dan20703
Oldgringo wrote:Back in my hunting days, I knocked down a goose over an alfalfa field and then proceeded to run it down. Rather than shoot it again, I decided to ring it's neck, kinda' like you'd do a quail or a dove or even a pheasant. Wild geese, even wounded ones, don't like having their necks rung.
Haha!!! I watched a friend of mine do the same thing years ago. He left his gun in the blind to run faster and when he tackled the goose it turned and bit him in the chest several times. I never heard a grown man scream so loud and scramble away from a bird in fear. Wild animals have a different opinion about man. There are no rules to survival. They fight to their last dying breath.
Re: Injured deer likely kicked, killed hunter
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:31 am
by Dave2
Dan20703 wrote:Oldgringo wrote:Back in my hunting days, I knocked down a goose over an alfalfa field and then proceeded to run it down. Rather than shoot it again, I decided to ring it's neck, kinda' like you'd do a quail or a dove or even a pheasant. Wild geese, even wounded ones, don't like having their necks rung.
Haha!!! I watched a friend of mine do the same thing years ago. He left his gun in the blind to run faster and when he tackled the goose it turned and bit him in the chest several times. I never heard a grown man scream so loud and scramble away from a bird in fear. Wild animals have a different opinion about man. There are no rules to survival. They fight to their last dying breath.
Huh... I didn't realize geese could bite a man's chest. Fingers, hands, feet, and toes, sure, but I didn't know their beaks were big enough for them to go all t-rex on someone.
Re: Injured deer likely kicked, killed hunter
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 7:09 am
by thatguy

Why let the animal suffer? Just put the animal down, its better for them and safer for you.
Re: Injured deer likely kicked, killed hunter
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 11:21 am
by The Annoyed Man
Jumping Frog wrote:The Annoyed Man wrote:He died of stupidity. He shot the deer. Why didn't he just shoot it again?
Perhaps he was bow hunting or using a muzzleloader?
Maybe.....the article doesn't specify. Even if he was bow-hunting or using a muzzle-loader, why didn't he shoot it again? He didn't shoot it again—with an arrow or musket ball, either which would have been safer than using a knife—because he was stupid. Ergo, he died of stupidity.
Re: Injured deer likely kicked, killed hunter
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 11:35 am
by Oldgringo
The Annoyed Man wrote:Jumping Frog wrote:The Annoyed Man wrote:He died of stupidity. He shot the deer. Why didn't he just shoot it again?
Perhaps he was bow hunting or using a muzzleloader?
Maybe.....the article doesn't specify. Even if he was bow-hunting or using a muzzle-loader, why didn't he shoot it again? He didn't shoot it again—with an arrow or musket ball, either which would have been safer than using a knife—because he was stupid. Ergo, he died of stupidity.
There's a lot of that going around. In fact, stupidity may be reaching pandemic proportions. Present company excepted, of course.

Re: Injured deer likely kicked, killed hunter
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:43 pm
by thatguy
Oldgringo wrote:The Annoyed Man wrote:Jumping Frog wrote:The Annoyed Man wrote:He died of stupidity. He shot the deer. Why didn't he just shoot it again?
Perhaps he was bow hunting or using a muzzleloader?
Maybe.....the article doesn't specify. Even if he was bow-hunting or using a muzzle-loader, why didn't he shoot it again? He didn't shoot it again—with an arrow or musket ball, either which would have been safer than using a knife—because he was stupid. Ergo, he died of stupidity.
There's a lot of that going around. In fact, stupidity may be reaching pandemic proportions.
Present company excepted, of course. 

of course....