Ted Cruz A Texas

[mojo84]

I would encourage anyone interested in comparing Cruz and Trump in order to decide for whom they should vote to watch Cruz's forum and the Donald's. Both were held at Regent University. Which one sounds more reasonable, presidential, decent and capable? Considering what our country is facing, it's critical we elect the right guy.

http://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/politics/20 ... angelicals


http://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/politics/20 ... University

Max Lucado weighs in.

https://maxlucado.com/decency-for-president/

[parabelum]

I think you know that I'm very skeptical and cynical person Charles. It is not something that I'm proud of, but that's who I am.

I trust nobody and nothing except for my Lord and the scripture.

I don't listen to sound bytes only, although there are sound bytes of Trump at NRA-ILA Leadership Forum, Trump at the border, Trump taking on Immigration issues with very specific solutions, Trump on 2A issues with great specificity, Trump on backing our Veterans and LE, Trump outlining specific details on destroying ISIS etc. etc.

Would you mind providing some of those? Because I'm not aware of any specificity on any issue Trump has raised except build a wall that Mexico pays for without explaining HOW he'll get Mexico to pay for it. I haven't heard him say anything about 2A except he's better than everyone else on 2A (which is his standard line for everything) and it wasn't that long ago that he supported an "assault weapons" ban.

Now, I challenge anyone to look at the Millions this man gave to Veteran groups, Churches, special needs children and their families, the fortune he spent in the 70's rebuilding dilapidated parts of NYC that were overrun by gangs and crime and he turned those neighborhoods into affordable units for middle class Americans, cleaning the streets. This was before it was fashionable to build in NYC.

Where do you get this information? It's my understanding that Trump never donated to veteran groups until his stunt in Iowa, and only three veteran groups have received any funds at all ($100,000 each) from the $6 million he supposedly raised.

The Trump you describe is not the one that I'm familiar with, and I have done a lot of research.

https://www.nraila.org/media/20150410/v ... ship-forum






http://www.trump.com/charities/

https://www.donaldtrumpforvets.com/

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/ ... /80415606/

https://www.looktothestars.org/news/209 ... -hospitals








And I can go on and on, but those whose minds are rigid are held hostage in the ghettos of their own minds, and they will not want to accept any of it.


Again, we shall see after next Tuesday.


Note that I am not going to bash Cruz, even though there is lots of material on him.


May the best leader win.

[RicoTX]

I voted today in my small town and waited 45 minutes in line to do so. Seems it will be a large turnout. Interestingly didn't have to go through metal detector if you were voting... But did if you wanted the tax office or drivers license. Couldn't carry today anyway obviously, but funny how the whole building is posted 30.06 all the time. Seems no reason since they make exceptions security wise when voting. They should only post 30.06 if and when court is in session and that is where you are going. Marble Falls Annex in case you are wondering.

Another strange thing.... I changed my address last month on my DL and LTC and got my new voter card... But they still showed the old address and I had to fill out another form. They couldn't understand why either.

[jed]

Cruz references the constitution with almost every statement he makes. Rubio does some but no where as often as Cruz. Has anyone ever heard Trump mention the constitution? I have not. If "we the people" actually support the constitution there is no way we can support or vote for Trump. As a constitutional conservative I only see one person that can get this country out of the toilet of socialism before the handle is pulled. It aint Clinton or Sanders (both socialist), Rubio (RNC establishment) or Trump (ego driven, attention seeking, self serving, bullying liberal). This election is our last chance, if it's not already too late, to rescue this country from socialism and we had better make the right choice.

[Outnumbered]

Cruz references the constitution with almost every statement he makes. Rubio does some but no where as often as Cruz. Has anyone ever heard Trump mention the constitution? I have not. If "we the people" actually support the constitution there is no way we can support or vote for Trump. As a constitutional conservative I only see one person that can get this country out of the toilet of socialism before the handle is pulled. It aint Clinton or Sanders (both socialist), Rubio (RNC establishment) or Trump (ego driven, attention seeking, self serving, bullying liberal). This election is our last chance, if it's not already too late, to rescue this country from socialism and we had better make the right choice.

[Liberty]

Cruz has always been a 2nd amendment supporter .. Has always supported the constitution. Trump has supported gun control and those that have vowed to destroy our rights. Cruz has actually gone to the Supreme Court and fought for our constitution, While Trump was trying to steal property from little old ladies. Trump has done a good job making himself richer, while Cruz has actually fought to make us freer.

Trump relishes a role of being a real donkey pit, while Cruz live a life of honesty , and real family values.. Trump admits he buys politicians.
Its amazing to me that, Trump actually has support on a Texas based Gun forum.

If we look at what one stands for and what one has actually done for the citizens. Instead of bloviations screamed out on a stage. maybe we would see things differently.

[timdsmith72]

Interesting thing.... Democrats nominate whom they want. Republicans nominate whom they think is electable against a hard left candidate. Democrats have won the last two general elections following that strategy. Back when republicans followed that strategy, they won two general elections. Even if they win, getting a "60% republican" each time simply shifts the nation further left each election cycle, but at a slightly slower rate. I'm an independent Liberative Conservatarian these days, and I am no longer holding my nose to vote for the lesser of two evils. The country I grew up in is finished anyway, so I might as well vote my conscience.

[J.R.@A&M]

Interesting thing.... Democrats nominate whom they want. Republicans nominate whom they think is electable against a hard left candidate. Democrats have won the last two general elections following that strategy. Back when republicans followed that strategy, they won two general elections. Even if they win, getting a "60% republican" each time simply shifts the nation further left each election cycle, but at a slightly slower rate. I'm an independent Liberative Conservatarian these days, and I am no longer holding my nose to vote for the lesser of two evils. The country I grew up in is finished anyway, so I might as well vote my conscience.

I respectfully disagree on several counts. First, both eight years ago and now, there was plenty of disagreement and division amongst the Democrats about who to nominate. They were hardly united, but slugged it out in their primary season. Second, they won the last two elections because they out-played, out-generaled, and won the turnout game. That Obama had an extra angle with the minority vote and youth vote was perhaps a unique element in their favor. Lastly, while I would not presume to tell somebody else how to vote (especially in the primary), conservatives who vote 3rd party in the general election will mathematically help elect the greater of two evils. We're all free to make out own choices, but the consequence that I just described is pretty predictable.

[The Annoyed Man]

Lastly, while I would not presume to tell somebody else how to vote (especially in the primary), conservatives who vote 3rd party in the general election will mathematically help elect the greater of two evils. We're all free to make out own choices, but the consequence that I just described is pretty predictable.

I understand that. All of it. And in both 2008 and 2012, I said the very same thing on the pages of this website. I no longer care.

I don't mean that I no longer care about voting, or about elections. I mean that I no longer care about parties.....including the republican party. I haven't been a republican since 2012. I'm not a conservative. I haven't been one since sometime around 2010. When I call myself a "liberative conservatarian", I say it kind of tongue in cheek, but I'm also serious. I am a social conservative, with a libertarian viewpoint about whether or not I have a right to force other people by means of legislative acts to live my socially conservative values, backed up by the gov't's ability to force it at the point of a gun. I have come to believe that the federal gov't is irrelevant in most things except for where it can force you to do things at the point of a gun.....regardless of which party holds the reins of power. I believe that it acts immorally in most situations......regardless of which party holds the reins of power. I have come to believe that the purpose of a state government is to protect its residents from the federal government. I have come to believe that the only gov't having relevance is local gov't.

We'll just have to respectfully disagree with one another about the republican party's need for MY vote. If they really needed it, they wouldn't tolerate buffoons like Trump, they would clean their own house, and the national leadership would pay closer attention to the grassroots. I have a long time friend who has been a lifelong republican.....I mean ALL her life.....and she's in her 70s now. She has been a conservative grassroots republican activist all of her life. She has worked in the campaign offices of multiple senators, representatives, legislators, governors, and presidents over the years, in the states of Texas, Kansas, New York, and New Mexico, where she currently lives. She has worked in party call centers, walked precincts, answered phones, licked envelopes.....all of it, and ALWAYS for the republican party. A week ago or so, she posted on her Facebook page that she had given up on the party. I had only been a republican since 1996. She has been one for 50 years or more. The party loses someone like me.....no big deal. To them, people like me come and go. But when they lose a bedrock conservative who has devoted her entire adult life to the party.....and I mean DEVOTED to it.....not just voted for it.....someone who put her money where her mouth is for half a century, then that party has lost a gem, a core individual, a true believer. And my friend is probably far from being the only one who feels that way today. The republican party brand no longer has any value, because the national leadership has run it into the ground.

No republican will want to hear this, and I understand why - because the issues really are terribly important - but maybe what the party needs is to get its butt handed to it so very very badly, with all of the attendant fallout for the country, that the national leadership will wake up and realize how badly they have led the party astray, and they can start running candidates who will actually stand for republican values (if that term still means anything these days) once they've been elected. Maybe this nation needs a dose of medicine SO bitter that it is forced to face the truth and the people gain enough testicular fortitude to accept hard choices in the name of saving the country.

If the republican party cannot do that, then it cannot save its brand, and maybe it isn't worth saving then. Either way, unless the party makes a sudden shift to the philosophically libertarian viewpoint, I am not interested in its fortunes. Yeah, I know that they could lose. They're going to lose anyway, but not because of me or people like me. They are going to lose because they are incompetent, and they take loudmouth buffoons seriously. My vote isn't going to change that. in fact, it will merely enable more of it.

[dale blanker]

Thanks to The Annoyed Man for some great soul-searching and thoughtful discussion about our party politics. The political parties do seem to have lost any perspective about solving our country's problems. Instead, the only goals have to do with winning elections and claiming labels, conservative or liberal. Surely neither is all bad or all good. Let's just get together and do what needs to be done!!!

G.K.Chesterton may have the best insight: "We are all in the same boat in a stormy sea, and we OWE each other a terrible loyalty."

[winters]

I voted for trump. If Cruz would get off his bible beating everytime he opens his mouth I would vote for him instead.

[Right2Carry]

Here is an interesting video for those supporting Trump. He is everything we don't like yet we are expected to believe he has changed his position? Trump is a carnival barker and nothing more.

[J.R.@A&M]

Lastly, while I would not presume to tell somebody else how to vote (especially in the primary), conservatives who vote 3rd party in the general election will mathematically help elect the greater of two evils. We're all free to make out own choices, but the consequence that I just described is pretty predictable.

I understand that. All of it. And in both 2008 and 2012, I said the very same thing on the pages of this website. I no longer care.

I don't mean that I no longer care about voting, or about elections. I mean that I no longer care about parties.....including the republican party. I haven't been a republican since 2012. I'm not a conservative. I haven't been one since sometime around 2010. When I call myself a "liberative conservatarian", I say it kind of tongue in cheek, but I'm also serious. I am a social conservative, with a libertarian viewpoint about whether or not I have a right to force other people by means of legislative acts to live my socially conservative values, backed up by the gov't's ability to force it at the point of a gun. I have come to believe that the federal gov't is irrelevant in most things except for where it can force you to do things at the point of a gun.....regardless of which party holds the reins of power. I believe that it acts immorally in most situations......regardless of which party holds the reins of power. I have come to believe that the purpose of a state government is to protect its residents from the federal government. I have come to believe that the only gov't having relevance is local gov't.

We'll just have to respectfully disagree with one another about the republican party's need for MY vote. If they really needed it, they wouldn't tolerate buffoons like Trump, they would clean their own house, and the national leadership would pay closer attention to the grassroots. I have a long time friend who has been a lifelong republican.....I mean ALL her life.....and she's in her 70s now. She has been a conservative grassroots republican activist all of her life. She has worked in the campaign offices of multiple senators, representatives, legislators, governors, and presidents over the years, in the states of Texas, Kansas, New York, and New Mexico, where she currently lives. She has worked in party call centers, walked precincts, answered phones, licked envelopes.....all of it, and ALWAYS for the republican party. A week ago or so, she posted on her Facebook page that she had given up on the party. I had only been a republican since 1996. She has been one for 50 years or more. The party loses someone like me.....no big deal. To them, people like me come and go. But when they lose a bedrock conservative who has devoted her entire adult life to the party.....and I mean DEVOTED to it.....not just voted for it.....someone who put her money where her mouth is for half a century, then that party has lost a gem, a core individual, a true believer. And my friend is probably far from being the only one who feels that way today. The republican party brand no longer has any value, because the national leadership has run it into the ground.

No republican will want to hear this, and I understand why - because the issues really are terribly important - but maybe what the party needs is to get its butt handed to it so very very badly, with all of the attendant fallout for the country, that the national leadership will wake up and realize how badly they have led the party astray, and they can start running candidates who will actually stand for republican values (if that term still means anything these days) once they've been elected. Maybe this nation needs a dose of medicine SO bitter that it is forced to face the truth and the people gain enough testicular fortitude to accept hard choices in the name of saving the country.

If the republican party cannot do that, then it cannot save its brand, and maybe it isn't worth saving then. Either way, unless the party makes a sudden shift to the philosophically libertarian viewpoint, I am not interested in its fortunes. Yeah, I know that they could lose. They're going to lose anyway, but not because of me or people like me. They are going to lose because they are incompetent, and they take loudmouth buffoons seriously. My vote isn't going to change that. in fact, it will merely enable more of it.

Fair enough.

Like you, I don't expect that much variation in the policy/economic/cultural outcome regardless of which party wins the White House. Nobody will have a mandate or ability to do much domestically, which is not necessarily a bad thing (at least in the First Do No Harm sense).

Beyond that, I am particularly motivated by the SCOTUS and Commander-in-Chief implications for the next four years. (Those decisions will, of course, last a lot longer than the administration that makes them.) To that end, I am willing to vote for the most electable, most conservative primary candidate with all the compromises that implies. And it means I will vote for the GOP nominee in the general election.

Peace to everybody this fine day.

[The Annoyed Man]

Peace to everybody this fine day.

And peace be upon you too.

I am at church at the moment, not in the service (I just came off stage a few minutes ago) but in the sound booth, and I just heard my pastor quote Confucious just now.....which at my Baptist church made my ears perk up. Confucious said "The superior man understands what's right. The inferior man understands what sells." Sadly, the leading republican candidate is best described as an inferior man. How can that be, in the allegedly more morally grounded party, unless the largest plurality of its voters are more willing to buy from the inferior man than to consider the superior man? That predicament describes not only a party that has thoroughly lost its way, but also how shallow the depths of a significant chunk of its voting base.

[dale blanker]

Peace to everybody this fine day.

And peace be upon you too.

I am at church at the moment, not in the service (I just came off stage a few minutes ago) but in the sound booth, and I just heard my pastor quote Confucious just now.....which at my Baptist church made my ears perk up. Confucious said "The superior man understands what's right. The inferior man understands what sells." Sadly, the leading republican candidate is best described as an inferior man. How can that be, in the allegedly more morally grounded party, unless the largest plurality of its voters are more willing to buy from the inferior man than to consider the superior man? That predicament describes not only a party that has thoroughly lost its way, but also how shallow the depths of a significant chunk of its voting base.

Yes, but why is the salesman more respected than the intellectual? It almost appears that evolution is reversing itself in the US and human intelligence is actually declining rather than increasing as it should be. It does seem like dementia is increasing too. OR maybe ISIS is using undectectable psychotic drugs in our water or food supply...

On the other hand it was gravitational wave detectors that were built in the US so there is hope.