Republican Convention: Cruz supporters planning trouble?

[RicoTX]

I have to say I am surprised, not by the politicians, but by the comments on this board, including the German comment. Very sad.

[Dave2]

So the consensus is that Cruz has lost the election for Donald Trump. Can we stop pretending Donald Trump ever had a chance?

How so? My inclination to vote 3rd party is because Trump won, not because Cruz lost. His speech tonight certainly won't make me less inclined to vote R.

[RicoTX]

I will be voting for Trump, but I also remember the name calling and acting like children by many of the candidates, including and most outspoken of all, Trump. It is what it is...and I will still vote for him... but I won't knock someone who won't. Im not going to say someone is anti 2a because they won't vote for him. If Trump loses, it is not one individuals fault, but the collective fault of the party and political system that nominated him. Do I hope he wins? Absolutely! If he doesn't, we have lots of work to do...and hopefully learn from mistakes to win in 2020.

[K.Mooneyham]

I'm gonna get flamed for this, but I am incredibly proud of him. I can't believe anyone would expect him to endorse the man who implied his dad had something to do with a Presidential assassination, called him a liar, and a cheater. I will never be a politician because I don't have the temperament for it. I would have punched trump in the face early on in this race.

He didn't have to "endorse" him, he could have taken the Ronald Reagan approach. When Reagan lost to Gerald Ford, he stood on the podium with Ford at the convention and gave a great speech unifying the Party around the one candidate. Cruz should have done the same.

Many people, including me I must admit, previously stated that Cruz may be our best chance of having another Reagan in the White House. We owe Reagan a heartfelt apology. Reagan was a true statesman who put the country's interest above his own. Cruz is just another politician. By tomorrow when he realizes what he has done to his own political future, he may well try to "fix" his problem. It won't work.

Chas.

Mr. Cotton, I was saying pretty much the same thing to the guys at work tonight. That Senator Cruz should have kept it simple, said that while obvious differences of opinion exist between good Republicans, that they should all agree that the goal is to prevent HRC from obtaining the WH. I am seriously disappointed in Senator Cruz and feel that he has given HRC a gift she most certainly does not deserve in the least.

[bdgyeah]

I was very pleased that Republicans decided Ted Cruz was not their guy. When Ted talks I feel like I'm being talked at, preached to, and lectured. Already had 8 years of that. His speech and actions were completely predictable. Trump 2016........I hope.

[Liberty]

I must have seen a different speech than everyone else. I just saw a lot of butt kissing from Cruz and everyone else.Cruz laid out Conservative principles that are the (or used to be ) the principle of the Republican party.He endorsed and blessed the wall. He said nothing negative at all about Trump.That America was a wonderful place, and described things that threatened our freedom, all things that Trump probably would agree with. I was watching the focus group thing that Fox often does last night. The panel of 'undecided' said that Cruz'z and the Newt's speeches pulled them towards voting for Trump.

If Cruz had come out and said that Trump "Would be a great president" or that Trump was a "good and honest man", everyone on the planet would have known Cruz was just making things up and lying through his teeth.

[dlh]

Last night Cruz put the interests of himself ahead of the interests of his party. He is a petty, back-stabbing politician. He did it to John Cornyn and he has now done it to Donald Trump.

It is unclear what effect any of this will have when Ted runs for re-election of his senate seat. He can certainly expect a strong opponent in the Republican Primary and in the general election.

Concerning party loyalty Cruz should have read some of the biographies about Ronald Reagan and Lyndon Johnson and tried to follow their example. Sadly, last night, he did not.

[NTexCopRetired]

Ted Cruz basically committed political suicide. He is one of the most intelligent and articulate individuals I have heard speak. He could be the next Justice Antonin Scalia. Alas, his ego gets in the way of his judgement at times. Maybe his strategy is to hope the Republicans hold Congress and sacrifice the presidency for the next four years. If the Senate is lost, the Supreme Court is lost almost immediately in 2017. What's left of a conservative Federal judicial system will be lost. I don't have to explain the consequences of that scenario. What will be the result when all 13 Federal Appellate courts look like the 9th Circuit?

Trump was not my first or second choice but he is now my only choice. This is a case where the devil you don't know is far better than the devil you do know and I know the outcome of a Clinton presidency. We have no idea what it is like to live in a truly Godless society. Four years from now, I may not be able to say that. This forum would not be allowed to exist by then.

[parabelum]

We have no idea what it is like to live in a truly Godless society. Four years from now, I may not be able to say that. This forum would not be allowed to exist by then.

Just wait until you see Islamofascist sympathizing towns sprout up in the nice neighborhood near you, like the ones in MN or upstate NY.
Wait until you see the first transgendered AG or Sec. of Defense etc. Until the BLM goons start to phase out our police force, after all, have you forgotten that BO speech years ago where he said that "we need strong civilian national force..."?

Wait until your kids or grandkids are driven out of their school seats, until we are overrun with infected people from hostile countries, with values incompatible with Western culture.

Just wait, and that's what you'll get if you follow Cruz and his ilk. Hillary in WH and our Country gone, with Civil War then being the last hope...

[chamberc]

I think the important thing to remember about Trump, is that he has never stood a remote chance of being elected. That's why Hillary picked him as her "fix". You have to go back, but Trump has continually been a huge supporter of both Bill & Hillary, and only ceased that support when Hillary needed him to torpedo any conservative chances at the White House again.

"Clinton, the Democratic front-runner and former New York senator who had some say over policy that could have impacted Trump’s vast business dealings, received donations from both him and son Donald Trump Jr. on separate occasions in 2002, 2005, 2006 and 2007, according to state and federal disclosure records.

Trump has also been generous with the Clinton Foundation, donating at least $100,000, according to the non-profit."

[bblhd672]

We have no idea what it is like to live in a truly Godless society. Four years from now, I may not be able to say that. This forum would not be allowed to exist by then.

Just wait until you see Islamofascist sympathizing towns sprout up in the nice neighborhood near you, like the ones in MN or upstate NY.
Wait until you see the first transgendered AG or Sec. of Defense etc. Until the BLM goons start to phase out our police force, after all, have you forgotten that BO speech years ago where he said that "we need strong civilian national force..."?

Wait until your kids or grandkids are driven out of their school seats, until we are overrun with infected people from hostile countries, with values incompatible with Western culture.

Just wait, and that's what you'll get if you follow Cruz and his ilk. Hillary in WH and our Country gone, with Civil War then being the last hope...

Very disappointed in Cruz, but glad that he has fully exposed himself as part of the Republican elite interested solely interested in maintaining their own power.

[bblhd672]

"We must, indeed, all hang together or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately." - Benjamin Franklin

Going forward, all of us who love liberty and freedom, despite our differences, must remember to put aside those things and stand together.
There's nothing the enemies of the Constitution want more than to be able to separate us over petty arguments and lose sight of the big picture.

I'll leave you with another quote from that great "statesman" Jean-Luc Picard:
"The line must be drawn here! This far, no farther!"

[Middle Age Russ]

I had hoped that time would prove Cruz to be not only a Conservative idealist, but also someone with enough Statesman qualities to be truly effective in the political sphere. Apparently, it is a rare beast indeed that is a Conservative idealist as well as a Statesman -- and someone willing to pursue elected office. I fully support most of Cruz' policy positions, and feel that he consistently stands on principle. Principle is just one of the things we need right now, though. As much or maybe even more than adherence to principles, we also need a unified sense of purpose against Progressivism. It is a pity that Cruz was not statesman enough to further unite the GOP against the Progressives, and a greater pity that this inability hurts his chances of forwarding the principles he holds dear.

[JALLEN]

Very disappointed in Cruz, but glad that he has fully exposed himself as part of the Republican elite interested solely interested in maintaining their own power.

It will come as quite a shock to the so-called "Republican elite" that Cruz is really one of them. Who knew?

I don't understand the vitriol over Cruz. He didn't use the "e" word. So what? If he refuses to participate with Trump in the campaign, that might be a different story.

I wonder if there is a "Republican elite." I've followed Republican Party politics for more than 50 years, and don't recall ever hearing the term, certainly not as a pejorative. There were "RINOS", "striped pants Republicans", "Rockefeller Republicans", etc. Everybody needs a bogeyman to rally themselves against.

If Trump wins, it will be with a great many votes unenthusiastically cast by those who wish there was a better choice. Maybe he will get there the old fashioned way, by "earning it."

[NTexCopRetired]

I think the important thing to remember about Trump, is that he has never stood a remote chance of being elected. That's why Hillary picked him as her "fix". You have to go back, but Trump has continually been a huge supporter of both Bill & Hillary, and only ceased that support when Hillary needed him to torpedo any conservative chances at the White House again."

Now, I can't dispute anything you said because it is basically an opinion (and a little conspiracy theory thrown in). So I can't say you are wrong. But, if this is true and she was able to manipulate the Republican party (and some of Trump's support is external to the Party) into going along with her "fix", I would rather take a chance on the "fix" winning than the "fixer". The fix doesn't work if the fixer loses, unless you believe Trump will roll over for the Clinton's or the Democrat party if he is elected. In that case, we are now screwed and don't know it.

Trump did what almost every other successful, top tier business man has done. He played both sides of the fence. It is not an insignificant event but I hardly count it as full on support for the Clinton's policies and ideals. He has had wealth, power, name recognition and status outside politics for a long time. The Clinton's have slowly gained those things over the last twenty years and have just lately gained enormous wealth. Ms. Clinton has not tasted the seat of power her husband and Mr. Trump have. That is what drives her now.