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19 yr old girl and 15 yr old boy

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the below is the brief info i can find, however my concern is...
a 19 yr old girl is cohabiting with a 15 year old boy at her mothers house, they moved in with the mother and step dad in January
the 19yr old becomes "with child" when the boy is 15, and the 19 yr old is about to turn 20 in two months.
the boy just turned 16 last month, but baby is due in oct.
the only people in this debacle that knew the boy was 15, was the girl, the boy and her mother. The husband is the girls stepfather. The mother and daughter and little boy, kept the secret from the husband and his daughter who is 13.
this revelation was revealed this past weekend and the husband is a little P.O.ed, but IMO he is just as guilty for not questioning the boys age.
the two sponges I like to call them as they don't work or contribute to the household are now in new mexico with the girls biological dad and his girlfriend. He states that in new mexico the law lets the grandmother who is the legal guardian of boy, give her permission to let the 19 year old and the 15 year old SHACK UP if you will.
My question is many
does granny now liable for child prostitution or exploitation of a minor?
did the 19 yr old hold captive the 15 yr old and sexually molest/rape him?
is 19 yr old mother just as guilty for withholding the truth about age?
is the step dad equally liable?
meanwhile the state of texas has been giving the 19 yr old free prenatal care and ebt?
shouldn't EBT be notified they are out of state now and the possible
should calls be made to the new mexico leo or child protection services?
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What is the Age of Consent?
TX Legal Age of Consent, 2013 and 2014

The Age of Consent is the age at which a person is deemed by Texas law to be capable of consenting to, and engaging in, sexual acts. Anyone who engages in sexual activity of any type with a partner under the applicable Age of Consent is breaking the law and can be charged with crimes ranging from a misdemeanor to a felony (statutory rape) depending on the jurisdiction in which they are prosecuted. Texas's specific laws on the Age of Consent can be found above.
What happens if I violate the Texas Age of Consent?

If you engage in sexual activity with a minor who is under the Texas Age of Consent of 17, you can be prosecuted under Texas sexual abuse laws and charged with crimes ranging from sexual assault to first degree rape, regardless of whether or not the sexual acts were consensual. Depending on the charges, conviction can carry penalties ranging from one to fifty years in prison and registration as a sex offender.
What happens if I travel to a state where the Age of Consent is lower?

In most states, the travel or transportation of a minor over state lines with the intention of engaging in sexual activity is in itself a severe misdemeanor or felony. As a result, it is generally not possible to evade a state's age of consent rules by travelling to a different state.
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If your concern is that the sexual abuse of a minor by an adult is taking place through the complicity of other adults, then your next call might be to the police to report what you know or suspect. IANAL but there's no way I know of that a mother of a 15-year old boy can consent to a 19-year old woman statutorily rape that young man.

On the other hand, if you're not wanting to see this blow up in everyone's face, perhaps you'd just keep your nose on your side of the fence and keep your suspicions to yourself.

Tough choice - don't envy you.

Are you related to any of the actors in this play? (or, actors in this upcoming criminal case)?
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The taxpayer gets stuck with the bill on this. Figure that it costs at least $5,000 a year to send each child to school which comes from property tax, every child from a welfare home costs all of the costs of welfare plus the property tax to send the kid to school. I have seen teens at 13 pregnant that were more mature than people in their 20's so I won't comment on that. This couple does not sound like they pass the maturity test and are bound to be a burden on the taxpayer for many years to come. Otherwise I don't care what they do.
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IANAL but a full reading of Texas Penal Code 22.011 makes clear that a 19 year old having sex with a 15 year old is felony sexual assault unless they are married.

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powerboatr wrote:My question is many
does granny now liable for child prostitution or exploitation of a minor?
Who paid for sex with the 15 year old?
powerboatr wrote:did the 19 yr old hold captive the 15 yr old
I don't know. Was he free to leave?
powerboatr wrote:should calls be made to the new mexico leo or child protection services?
Where did the alleged crimes occur? Where do they live now?
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Actually, the legal age of consent in Texas is 18. I would suggest you talk to a lawyer about it and not get your answers here.
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Texas -The age of consent is 17. The minimum age is 14 with an age differential of 3 years; thus, those who are at least 14 years of age can legally have sex with those less than 3 years older.
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CainA wrote:Texas -The age of consent is 17. The minimum age is 14 with an age differential of 3 years; thus, those who are at least 14 years of age can legally have sex with those less than 3 years older.
Sorry, incorrect. A person MUST be 18 period. Here is a link to the law. See section 43.25 http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/D ... /PE.43.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Want to add, they cannot be charged with sexual assault for the guidelines you stated above, but sexual performance of a child applies to anyone under 18. here is the rape section in 22.011 http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/D ... /PE.22.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Keith B wrote:
CainA wrote:Texas -The age of consent is 17. The minimum age is 14 with an age differential of 3 years; thus, those who are at least 14 years of age can legally have sex with those less than 3 years older.
Sorry, incorrect. A person MUST be 18 period. Here is a link to the law. See section 43.25 http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/D ... /PE.43.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Want to add, they cannot be charged with sexual assault for the guidelines you stated above, but sexual performance of a child applies to anyone under 18. here is the rape section in 22.011 http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/D ... /PE.22.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

thanks i have found no less than five references to 17 then to 18 on the legal age
despite the two numbers.... the girl 19 has committed the offense on a 15 yer old boy, who just turned 16

I am awaiting my attorney to phone back
The situation now is I know, my wife knows and now my son (whose house it was happening in) knows he was only 15, even though we were all told he was 17. So the sons wife hid the facts, as did the boy and the girl.
you know lies always catch up to you, we wouldn't know at all except the boy (15yr old) and the step granddaughter (19 yr old) just had to go back to new mexico to see his gang friends, as it turns out they are staying. :anamatedbanana :anamatedbanana ..but was all upset because he stands to get some money from new Mexico for wrongful death of his drug dealing mother who died in jail in Albuquerque...last fall
and since he is under 18...his guardian (grandmother) is going to hold his cut and he is afraid it will be gone... of course we all asked why aren't you getting it..and then it came out from my daughter in law(mother of the 19 yr old) that he is only 16.....my son almost threw up he got so mad, and i just shook my head

i guess in the long run, i need to make a call to the leo and he may need to go see one as well.
hopefully the attorney has some good advice
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Keith is correct and I am wrong as mentioned. I was looking at 21.11
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Keith B wrote:
CainA wrote:Texas -The age of consent is 17. The minimum age is 14 with an age differential of 3 years; thus, those who are at least 14 years of age can legally have sex with those less than 3 years older.
Sorry, incorrect. A person MUST be 18 period. Here is a link to the law. See section 43.25 http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/D ... /PE.43.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Want to add, they cannot be charged with sexual assault for the guidelines you stated above, but sexual performance of a child applies to anyone under 18. here is the rape section in 22.011 http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/D ... /PE.22.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Review definition of "performance" in 43.25 and you'll see it only applies to under-18 sex that is somehow shown/exhibited to an audience. Would not apply to OP's case as I understand it ( unless I missed something)
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A-R wrote:
Keith B wrote:
CainA wrote:Texas -The age of consent is 17. The minimum age is 14 with an age differential of 3 years; thus, those who are at least 14 years of age can legally have sex with those less than 3 years older.
Sorry, incorrect. A person MUST be 18 period. Here is a link to the law. See section 43.25 http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/D ... /PE.43.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Want to add, they cannot be charged with sexual assault for the guidelines you stated above, but sexual performance of a child applies to anyone under 18. here is the rape section in 22.011 http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/D ... /PE.22.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Review definition of "performance" in 43.25 and you'll see it only applies to under-18 sex that is somehow shown/exhibited to an audience. Would not apply to OP's case as I understand it ( unless I missed something)
Yep, you missed it
Sec. 43.25. SEXUAL PERFORMANCE BY A CHILD. (a) In this section:
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(2) "Sexual conduct" means sexual contact, actual or simulated sexual intercourse, deviate sexual intercourse, sexual bestiality, masturbation, sado-masochistic abuse, or lewd exhibition of the genitals, the anus, or any portion of the female breast below the top of the areola.
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(b) A person commits an offense if, knowing the character and content thereof, he employs, authorizes, or induces a child younger than 18 years of age to engage in sexual conduct or a sexual performance. A parent or legal guardian or custodian of a child younger than 18 years of age commits an offense if he consents to the participation by the child in a sexual performance.
In the case of the 19 yo, she is guilty of 43.25. If the parents were aware the boy was under 18, and they were allowing the conduct, then they are guilty as well.

One thing to note, while this is the law, it is RARELY enforced in these cases of two teens consenting. It is extremely hard to prosecute because you have to get all of the participants to incriminate themselves and then convince a judge and/or jury to convict.
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I don't know about Texas law but in some states if they became involved prior to either turning 18 they would have relief under so called Romeo and Juliet laws.
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I didn't see where the teens were putting on a "performance". They were just having sex and I thought 17 was the age of consent for that.

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Apparently, it's not as cut and dried as I and many others think.


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jmra wrote:I don't know about Texas law but in some states if they became involved prior to either turning 18 they would have relief under so called Romeo and Juliet laws.
Romeo and Juliet laws are only to protect the older one from sexual assault (statutory rape) charges. See TPC 22.011 in my post above. What other laws exist in states determines the actual 'age of consent'.
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