Texas decision against assisted opening knives

[flintknapper]

i bet what happened is someone was caught and arrested with an assisted open knife and word got around that it was illegal cuz some liberal cop felt that it should be and thats the way he enforces it and if you dont know any better one will just go to jail without a word if in fact this is what happened we need a slick lawyer to take this case and put these cops behind a desk
i thought LEO were educated on what the law is and expected to enforce it as such
but it would seem to me they do what they want

Gosh, how did you arrive at all this from the little bit posted, you're being kinda rough on the "cops" don't you think?

I'd be much surprised if this were the case.

think what you will but i have been told myself that i was under arrest for premeditated murder when i had not killed anyone nobody had died my experience with LEO has been less than pleasant and i feel that they do enforce the law the way they feel it should be

I mean't no disrespect to you in my earlier post. In fact, I have my own "bad cop" story....but I refuse to paint all LEO with the same broad brush...and will not use this forum or any other venue to publicly condemn an entire group of hard working, dedicated professionals, that seems patently unfair to me.

Your point is well taken, but I doubt the OP's post is the result of some "liberal" LEO executing his duty in an over zealous fashion.

If you would like to share more of your story, or venting will in any way help, then please PM me, I am all ears.

Thanks,

Flint.

[lunchbox]

i dont mean that all LEO are that was but they are out there

[SCone]

I've also never used it to harm anyone

Knocked one of mine off the table awhile back and stuck it right in the side of my foot. Dang thing bleed like I was an extra in a slasher movie.

Wouldn't have mattered if it'd been a switchblade or not since it was open at the time.

[iratollah]

If a LEO were determined to cause difficulties for you, most every assisted open knife can also be classified as a gravity knife. Most of mine can be flicked open without using the thumb stud. I actually try to work them in enough that they can open that way. Go ahead and give it a try with yours and you'll see what I mean. Of course the longer blade assisted openers are easier to operate as a gravity knife.

My son had his small SOG confiscated at the Statue of Liberty, officer said it was a gravity knife, and after about 20 tries he did get it to open. Told my son if he didn't want to surrender the knife that he could tell his story to the judge in the morning. I hope that NYC officer is enjoying his new knife.

[lunchbox]

If a LEO were determined to cause difficulties for you, most every assisted open knife can also be classified as a gravity knife. Most of mine can be flicked open without using the thumb stud. I actually try to work them in enough that they can open that way. Go ahead and give it a try with yours and you'll see what I mean. Of course the longer blade assisted openers are easier to operate as a gravity knife.

My son had his small SOG confiscated at the Statue of Liberty, officer said it was a gravity knife, and after about 20 tries he did get it to open. Told my son if he didn't want to surrender the knife that he could tell his story to the judge in the morning. I hope that NYC officer is enjoying his new knife.

what a crock

what about this action was protecting and serving

[galvestonredneck]

I am 47 years old. I have lived thru a time when the "pocket knife" (we used to call the Barlow knifes) has gone from "just something every boy had" to today's "take that boy to JAIL, he has a knife".

Look, most of us grew up in the South. We all got a pocket knife at a young age and most of us played a game we called "stick" when our daddy's wern't looking. We carved wood, we used it as a screwdriver... We LEARNED. I have a brother who blinded himself with a hunting knife (one eye) when he was carving some tree bark when he was about 13. All these things happened and we lived. I know we should have been trained in proper knife handing, but most of us were not.

I have carried a pocket knife since I was about 7 years old. I never "pulled it" on anyone and it has got me out of a lot of problems. It is a TOOL, but unlike most of my tools; I have this one WITH me. I honestly didn't think of myself as ARMED when I put it in my pocket every morning. You and I both know where this is going, there will be some "groop" that wants us to quit useing pocket knifes because some thug stabbed some other thug with his.

My knife dosen't have a stud to help with opening. I do keep my knife razor sharp and I promise you if I WANT to, I could hurt someone with it. The queston is, do we deny the 99.9% of good folks there TOOL, because of a couple of thugs?

Answer me this, When did these people loose there minds? I must have missed that story in the news!

Galveston Redneck

You know a Hammer could be a weapon to

[lunchbox]

i told a principle ones on the subject of knifes that i could just as easily and effectively stab someone with my pen. is the school going to outlaw pens
she said well why do you need a knife in school
i answered the same reason i would need one anywhere its a tool just because your in school does not change the usefulness of a pocket knife


i dont think the world lost their minds over night it was over time so nobody noticed till it was too late

[SCone]

In my day (I'm 48 now), I ordered my first real pocket knife out of the back of a comic book. Was so proud of it, I took it to school the next day. All the guys wanted one so I showed them the brochure (just a bunch of Xerox pages) and took orders. I was sure popular when that order came in. Passed them out during recess.

Can you imagine trying to do that today?

[flintknapper]

If a LEO were determined to cause difficulties for you, most every assisted open knife can also be classified as a gravity knife. Most of mine can be flicked open without using the thumb stud. I actually try to work them in enough that they can open that way. Go ahead and give it a try with yours and you'll see what I mean. Of course the longer blade assisted openers are easier to operate as a gravity knife.

My son had his small SOG confiscated at the Statue of Liberty, officer said it was a gravity knife, and after about 20 tries he did get it to open. Told my son if he didn't want to surrender the knife that he could tell his story to the judge in the morning. I hope that NYC officer is enjoying his new knife.

This is true of most folding knives...(provided they are not manufactured with tight tolerances)...and certainly not unique to assisted opening knives.

The simple fact that certain knives CAN be opened (by employing "special techniques") is not a legitmate reason to classify/regard them as "gravity knives". Unless the "design" of the knife is such that its purpose is to allow opening it by means of gravity (as in a butterfly knife) then....I would gladly go to court over it.

I feel confident I could point out the obvious differences to any reasonable judge. Hopefully, the case would be settled quickly and with prejudice toward the officer.

We are surrounded by objects everyday that can be used in a manner that they were not intended to be. I submit that the courts would be choked with cases if common sense and intelligence were not at rule.

So, for me....if some uninformed/misguided person wants to press the issue...I'll be more than happy to oblige. Know the law and stand up for your rights!

[Liberty]

Answer me this, When did these people loose there minds? I must have missed that story in the news!

on Sept. 11, 2002.

There were signs some were losing them before. It seems that date is sigificant.

[lunchbox]

back to the subject at hand did we ever get any documentation to support this claim

[flintknapper]

back to the subject at hand did we ever get any documentation to support this claim

Nope!

[SCone]

Searched everywhere and found nothing new on the subject. Same as always been, AO knives are not "technically" switchblades, but the use of an AO around the wrong person may bring trouble. And the results may be your butt heading for a close encounter of the costly kind.

[KBCraig]

I've never seen a large locking folder that wouldn't open with centrifugal force, especially with a little assistance on the thumb stud. Or by opening it in a slightly different way, as I used to open my 4" Buck Lite (no thumb stud): grip the blade between thumb and finger, and flip downwards, so that the handle snaps into open position.

[Mike1951]

Answer me this, When did these people loose there minds? I must have missed that story in the news!

on Sept. 11, 2002.

There were signs some were losing them before. It seems that date is sigificant.

What happened then?

That would have been the first anniversary of the terrorist attack of 9/11/2001.