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crazy2medic wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 9:31 am You Cannot Subjugate An Armed Populace!
And that is why the Taliban is now confiscating weapons.

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Lynyrd wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 10:55 am
crazy2medic wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 9:31 am You Cannot Subjugate An Armed Populace!
And that is why the Taliban is now confiscating weapons.

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-paci ... 021-08-16/
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There are 5 to 10 thousand Americans in Afghanistan right now. I had no idea. That is a lot of hostages.




August 18, 2021

https://apple.news/AlW8G9slTSdSJoh375EKxFg

Left with a helicopter full of cash.
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why are Americans hiding in the crap box?


this is rapidly becoming on big cat box filling event
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If nothing else they've got a sense of humor:

Taliban Troll Biden On Twitter By Posing With Ice Cream
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Paladin wrote: Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:00 am If nothing else they've got a sense of humor:

Taliban Troll Biden On Twitter By Posing With Ice Cream

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There’s Nothing Normal About Joe Biden Going AWOL for Four Days

In his spirited opinion, Nolte is suggesting Biden has had a Psychotic break.
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Erik Prince comments
Prince said weapons and military vehicles the Pentagon abandoned in Afghanistan have been acquired by the Taliban, Iran, and others. Breitbart News could not independently verify this claim.

He stated, “Hundreds of thousands of small arms, artillery machine guns, high-precision brand new drones still in the package — these are eight- and twelve-hour surveillance drones that go for $3 million a piece — hundreds of aircraft — fixed-wing and helicopters — including laser-guided bombs laser-guided rockets, some pretty capable stuff, much of which has already shipped on to Iran or sold off.”

Afghanistan could have been “pacified” for five percent of the cost spent by the Pentagon with a “practical,” “cheap,” and “effective” strategy built upon special operations forces coordinating with local tribes, Prince argued.

“[The Taliban] say, ‘You have the watches but [we] has the time,” he remarked. “If you focus on being practical and cheap and effective, you can certainly out wait and outlast them. If we had just focused on what worked in the first place — the first six months — you had special operations backed by a little air power and they smashed the Taliban from October of 2001 and until the summer of 2002.”

He continued, “And then when the conventional military rolled in, we replicated the Soviet battle plan with all of its costs, and the U.S. military replicated its high-cost self in Afghanistan in a country that was never really a country before. It was largely just a group of tribes. So the SOF model worked with those local tribes, and it worked with the ones that were friendly and good to smash the Taliban.”

“If we kept the effort at that level, it would have worked,” he added. “What I recommended to President Trump was a model just like the special operations units use for the first six months, so all the high cost conventional military could have gone home. It would have cost less than five percent of what the Pentagon was spending on full effort, and it would have kept a lid on the whole country for decades to come.”
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The Bei Den Jo administration is literally washing its hands of this. When the American people come to grasp just how much their own gov’t is willing to abandon large numbers of them, Bei Den Jo becomes a one-term President.

It is OUR job to continually remind anybody who will listen that their gov’t will turn its back on them just when they need it most, and that democrats will turn it into a race to the bottom.
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This fraudulent regime is just trying to earn it's spot as the most evil and incompetent in American history. Just getting started.
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The Annoyed Man wrote: Thu Aug 19, 2021 8:08 am



The Bei Den Jo administration is literally washing its hands of this. When the American people come to grasp just how much their own gov’t is willing to abandon large numbers of them, Bei Den Jo becomes a one-term President.

It is OUR job to continually remind anybody who will listen that their gov’t will turn its back on them just when they need it most, and that democrats will turn it into a race to the bottom.

https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/u ... civilians/

This has more on British Paratroopers making runs into the city to safe houses to collect British citizens and Afghans. U S upset because UK is breaking their deal with Taliban.

“Don’t worry about paperwork just get as many as you can”
I seem to remember our State Department requiring citizens to go to a website fill out forms etc.

Has a meme with Xiden it says Dumbkirk.

August 21, 2021

American mom trapped by Taliban describes horrific violence, pleads for Biden to solve evacuation crisis

https://www.foxnews.com/world/american- ... iban-biden

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American woman trapped in Afghanistan. 20 checkpoints between her and airport. On one attempt she was whipped at a checkpoint then they shot a husband in the head in front of his weeping wife and baby. She is afraid every car that comes down the street is the Taliban to take her away from her hiding place.
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https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2021/08/ ... es-phones/

Christians being murdered by the Taliban for having digital copies of the Bible on their phones.




"Between 2003 and 2016, the United States transferred 75,898 vehicles, 599,690 weapons, 162,643 pieces of communications equipment, 208 aircraft, and 16,191 pieces of intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance equipment to Afghan forces, according to a 2017 Government Accountability Office report.

From 2017 to 2019, the United States also gave Afghan forces 7,035 machine guns, 4,702 Humvees, 20,040 hand grenades, 2,520 bombs and 1,394 grenade launchers, among other equipment, according to a report last year from the Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction (SIGAR).

As of June 30, Afghan forces had 211 U.S.-supplied aircraft in their inventory, a separate SIGAR report said."



Go France go!

August 20, 2021 https://apple.news/A6bAPuiqlSuaM_NYUIs_x2A

Cindy McCain blasts Xiden. Her dad said this would happen. Didn’t like Sec of State Xiden picked as he was a pull out fan. Xiden speaks. Trump goes nuclear.

August 21, 2021

https://thehill.com/policy/national-sec ... threats-at

State Department warns Americans about their Safty going to airport, one day after Xiden said it was safe.

August 21, 2021

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -Jima.html

Taliban wearing US gear recreate Iwo Jima flag raising only with their flag to honor their American enemy.
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well i have to speak out , my personal feelings
i watched the pentagon briefing this morning for a painfull hour
why does every spokesman for he biden admin have eyes that are dark as coal with no life behind them?

why are these generals and admirals not giving the brief then publicly state the orders they receive from biden are far past the line for any servicemen to follow and then lay out the truth , followed by resignation from current post. nothing wrong with doing this, in fact they have an obligation to name the name and call out bidens wishes/orders that will cause death to Americans, both civilian and military. as well as call out their bosses for following such orders.

those of us that have served, have had superiors that were unfit and issued illegal commands. we have had to deal with this, its never pretty but action has to be taken to remove these that follow this NUT.
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powerboatr wrote: Thu Aug 19, 2021 12:33 pm well i have to speak out , my personal feelings
i watched the pentagon briefing this morning for a painfull hour
why does every spokesman for he biden admin have eyes that are dark as coal with no life behind them?

why are these generals and admirals not giving the brief then publicly state the orders they receive from biden are far past the line for any servicemen to follow and then lay out the truth , followed by resignation from current post. nothing wrong with doing this, in fact they have an obligation to name the name and call out bidens wishes/orders that will cause death to Americans, both civilian and military. as well as call out their bosses for following such orders.

those of us that have served, have had superiors that were unfit and issued illegal commands. we have had to deal with this, its never pretty but action has to be taken to remove these that follow this NUT.
The generals, along with the politicians, have forgotten their legacy.


There’s at least pound of gold in the following article, explaining how a generation of fruit salad generals might fail to give solid advice to corruptible politicians, and why those political mollusks might refuse to act on the few precious nuggets of good advice they did receive. It offers a thorough explanation, going back hundreds of years.
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news ... -lee-smith. Here is just the opening salvo:
Democrats and Republicans are right to blame each other for the fall of Kabul. It’s a loss for America’s bipartisan foreign policy establishment as a whole. For nearly two decades Washington sent thousands of Americans to their deaths and spent trillions of taxpayer dollars to wage a strategically pointless war. And because both sides of the political divide should be held accountable, military as well as civilian officials, too, it is unlikely that anyone ever will be. Since everyone is to blame, holding anyone accountable implicates everyone.

The reality is that America lost its war in Afghanistan more than a decade ago, roughly around the time when CIA officers began bribing aging warlords with Viagra. The Americans knew all about the young boys the tribal leaders kept in their camps; because the sex drug helped Afghan elders rape more boys more often, they were beholden to America’s clandestine service.
Do read the whole thing.
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The Annoyed Man wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 8:24 am
powerboatr wrote: Thu Aug 19, 2021 12:33 pm well i have to speak out , my personal feelings
i watched the pentagon briefing this morning for a painfull hour
why does every spokesman for he biden admin have eyes that are dark as coal with no life behind them?

why are these generals and admirals not giving the brief then publicly state the orders they receive from biden are far past the line for any servicemen to follow and then lay out the truth , followed by resignation from current post. nothing wrong with doing this, in fact they have an obligation to name the name and call out bidens wishes/orders that will cause death to Americans, both civilian and military. as well as call out their bosses for following such orders.

those of us that have served, have had superiors that were unfit and issued illegal commands. we have had to deal with this, its never pretty but action has to be taken to remove these that follow this NUT.
The generals, along with the politicians, have forgotten their legacy.


There’s at least pound of gold in the following article, explaining how a generation of fruit salad generals might fail to give solid advice to corruptible politicians, and why those political mollusks might refuse to act on the few precious nuggets of good advice they did receive. It offers a thorough explanation, going back hundreds of years.
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news ... -lee-smith. Here is just the opening salvo:
Democrats and Republicans are right to blame each other for the fall of Kabul. It’s a loss for America’s bipartisan foreign policy establishment as a whole. For nearly two decades Washington sent thousands of Americans to their deaths and spent trillions of taxpayer dollars to wage a strategically pointless war. And because both sides of the political divide should be held accountable, military as well as civilian officials, too, it is unlikely that anyone ever will be. Since everyone is to blame, holding anyone accountable implicates everyone.

The reality is that America lost its war in Afghanistan more than a decade ago, roughly around the time when CIA officers began bribing aging warlords with Viagra. The Americans knew all about the young boys the tribal leaders kept in their camps; because the sex drug helped Afghan elders rape more boys more often, they were beholden to America’s clandestine service.
Do read the whole thing.
It appears that the more recent "General" has 20 ribbons compared to Mr. Eisenhower's 3. To align with today's society, is it possible that at least 18 of those ribbons are for "Participation"?
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