This is way to far TSA
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Re: This is way to far TSA
And now a TSA agent is suing one of their victims for defamation. (There's some explicit stuff in the article and NSFW language in the comments.)
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Saw that. You know for defamation to have occurred there has to be someone that is lying. It is not defamation if it is the truth. I saw no where in that article where the TSA agent in disputes the facts of what is alleged. She just does not like a spade being called a spade. If the TSA agent does not like people knowing what she does on a daily basis she needs to get a new job. Yep that is cold and hard, but just as cold and hard as what has been chanted at the flying public (don't like it--don't fly). By continuing to remain employed by an agency whose very procedures require you to violate people's private parts with out their consent (consent under duress is not consent) the TSA agent defamed herself--Ms. Alkon just made it public what the TSA agent does to possibly hundreds of women everyday.
Quite honestly as we (the traveling public) seem to have no recourse against the TSA, we can't seem to legislate them out (TX vs the TSA as a recent example), the courts continually find that groping an innocent person--even a child-- like a prison inmate "a reasonable search" then perhaps it is time for public condemnation of those perpetrating these offenses. A long time ago it was tar and feathers and being run out of town--we are a bit kinder today so now it is ostracism. Don't like it--get a new job.
Quite honestly as we (the traveling public) seem to have no recourse against the TSA, we can't seem to legislate them out (TX vs the TSA as a recent example), the courts continually find that groping an innocent person--even a child-- like a prison inmate "a reasonable search" then perhaps it is time for public condemnation of those perpetrating these offenses. A long time ago it was tar and feathers and being run out of town--we are a bit kinder today so now it is ostracism. Don't like it--get a new job.
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I agree mammabear, and if they claim they don't like having to do it any more than we don't like having it done then they have another reason to quit. "Just doing my job" wasn't valid at Nuremberg and, morally, not anywhere else.
There was another case recently where a woman grabbed the TSA agent's breast in the same manner than the TSA agent grabbed her. The judge dropped the case. I think this is because if any one case of sexual assault involving the TSA is heard there will be an avalanche that would bring down the entire enterprise (hopefully!).
It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
Last Thanksgiving they stood down on the scanners and patdowns to avoid the protests that were building, what will happen this year?
There was another case recently where a woman grabbed the TSA agent's breast in the same manner than the TSA agent grabbed her. The judge dropped the case. I think this is because if any one case of sexual assault involving the TSA is heard there will be an avalanche that would bring down the entire enterprise (hopefully!).
It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
Last Thanksgiving they stood down on the scanners and patdowns to avoid the protests that were building, what will happen this year?
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Following a scuffle and tasering at the Cowboys-Jets game, you can expect patdowns at NFL games now.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... pat-downs/
Next up will be shopping malls, concerts, and your children's school.
Meanwhile, on 9/11this past weekend a woman of Arab/Jewish lineage and 2 Indian men are removed from a plane, detained for several hours, and stripped searched because someone thought it suspicious 3 dark skinned people happened to be sitting in the same row and the men used the bathroom during the flight. The 3 did not know each other.
http://shebshi.wordpress.com/2011/09/12 ... n-detroit/
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... pat-downs/
Next up will be shopping malls, concerts, and your children's school.
Meanwhile, on 9/11this past weekend a woman of Arab/Jewish lineage and 2 Indian men are removed from a plane, detained for several hours, and stripped searched because someone thought it suspicious 3 dark skinned people happened to be sitting in the same row and the men used the bathroom during the flight. The 3 did not know each other.
http://shebshi.wordpress.com/2011/09/12 ... n-detroit/
"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security goals objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded."
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(watch the whole thing, there is even marching in front of the plebian citizens)
http://texaschlforum.com/viewtopic.php? ... 15#p476263Okay, “so I won’t fly anymore”. Neither will I, but that is really only the beginning. What happens when there is an incident at the mall, sporting event, grocery store, courthouse, school, hospital, work? These scanners will begin to show up in places that are not as voluntary to attend as the airport. They are already being used in courthouses, and don’t be surprised when they start showing up at schools (it’s for the children’s safety!). Schools that the government requires children to attend – no opt out there.
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They looked every inch the elite chairborne force.bnc wrote:[youtube][/youtube]
(watch the whole thing, there is even marching in front of the plebian citizens)
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This tells you what DHS REALLY thinks of TSA screening procedures. What was the fear if TSA screening is actually effective? Why do planes need fighter escorts if people can't get weapons and explosives on board aircraft? In their response to these incidents, the Feds are either saying that TSA screening is not effective, or we're witnessing security theater.bnc wrote:Meanwhile, on 9/11this past weekend a woman of Arab/Jewish lineage and 2 Indian men are removed from a plane, detained for several hours, and stripped searched because someone thought it suspicious 3 dark skinned people happened to be sitting in the same row and the men used the bathroom during the flight. The 3 did not know each other.
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TSA's actions have hit home.....
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VMI77 wrote:This tells you what DHS REALLY thinks of TSA screening procedures. What was the fear if TSA screening is actually effective? Why do planes need fighter escorts if people can't get weapons and explosives on board aircraft? In their response to these incidents, the Feds are either saying that TSA screening is not effective, or we're witnessing security theater.
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Here's some more examples. http://bit.ly/r7Ak6g" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Suspicious bathroom behavior incident number 2. Two more F-16s were called into action after two passengers who were spending "an extraordinarily long time in the lavatory" on a flight from Denver.
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Wow!!!! I don't know if this will come out right or just sound mean. I've got tell you - as someone who served in our armed forces - I don't know if I should laugh or cry. I am struck with a strange mix of anger, fear, pity, and shame upon watching that.bnc wrote: [youtube][/youtube]
(watch the whole thing, there is even marching in front of the plebian citizens)
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Those are the best of the best. Can you imagine the physical fitness of the average TSA employee?terryg wrote:Wow!!!! I don't know if this will come out right or just sound mean. I've got tell you - as someone who served in our armed forces - I don't know if I should laugh or cry. I am struck with a strange mix of anger, fear, pity, and shame upon watching that.
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tacticool wrote:Those are the best of the best. Can you imagine the physical fitness of the average TSA employee?terryg wrote:Wow!!!! I don't know if this will come out right or just sound mean. I've got tell you - as someone who served in our armed forces - I don't know if I should laugh or cry. I am struck with a strange mix of anger, fear, pity, and shame upon watching that.
Yeah, you can work off a lot of calories, and really bulk up staring at the nudie-scanner screen for 10 hours a day...
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I read an article a few days ago about a man who sneaked a knife on an airliner
and used it to threaten another passenger over a dispute concerning an arm rest.
Just shows you how litle security the TSA gives you for the*(&^%$) they put
innocent passengers through
and used it to threaten another passenger over a dispute concerning an arm rest.
Just shows you how litle security the TSA gives you for the*(&^%$) they put
innocent passengers through
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It's been a little while since we've heard anything good from the TSA. Well, it looks like it's going to be a little longer.
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This type of tyranny (and I do not use that term lightly) has become so common that it barely makes the news.
I have to stop here because this type of stuff makes me see red!
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I have to stop here because this type of stuff makes me see red!
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