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Vets against McCain...
Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 3:44 pm
by Jesse1911
I Couldn't beleive it when I heard this about him, then I searched and found this video...
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Re: Vets against McCain...
Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 8:50 pm
by tbranch
Jesse,
Read McCain's position here:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/26/mccain/
McCain, along with Sens. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and Richard Burr of North Carolina, has introduced an alternative bill that would increase education benefits on a sliding scale based on an individual's years of service. McCain argues his bill would have a smaller impact on retention rates than the legislation that the Senate passed.
It appears the Services were also against this bill as they are concerned about retention. Retaining trained people is critical to mission readiness. Ever hear of Stop Loss?
Tom
Re: Vets against McCain...
Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 11:05 pm
by KBCraig
This falls into the category of "don't assume everyone knows what you've known for a long time".
McCain, for many years, has been the biggest obstructionist against POW/MIA investigation and/or recovery. I thought that was common knowledge.
I don't necessarily subscribe to the conspiracy theories as to why, but his actions and votes in that area are undeniable.
Re: Vets against McCain...
Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 6:33 am
by bdickens
Well, gee, what's the alterantive? Osama, I mean Obama?
Re: Vets against McCain...
Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 8:12 am
by tallmike
bdickens wrote:Well, gee, what's the alterantive? Osama, I mean Obama?
How many people here would accept the lesser of 2 horrible choices in terms of gun control?
Do you want to get rid of all rifles or all handguns? Oh neither?
Why do people accept that in politics even if they would never accept it in other areas of their life? If all of the people who look at presidential elections as a choice between the "lesser of 2 evils" decided to vote 3rd party, donated $20 to a 3rd party, and put up a yard sign for a 3rd party the political climate of this country would change before the next presidential election came around.
Re: Vets against McCain...
Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:08 am
by jimlongley
tallmike wrote:bdickens wrote:Well, gee, what's the alterantive? Osama, I mean Obama?
How many people here would accept the lesser of 2 horrible choices in terms of gun control?
Do you want to get rid of all rifles or all handguns? Oh neither?
Why do people accept that in politics even if they would never accept it in other areas of their life? If all of the people who look at presidential elections as a choice between the "lesser of 2 evils" decided to vote 3rd party, donated $20 to a 3rd party, and put up a yard sign for a 3rd party the political climate of this country would change before the next presidential election came around.
Yes, but not enough have the courage of their convictions, and many remember Perot's run.
Re: Vets against McCain...
Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:10 am
by bdickens
Well, tallmike, go ahead and vote for Osama, I mean Obama if you want to.