ffl or not?

[alvins]

i found out my cousin customises ar 15's and resells them to people.basically he buys the basic gun and then adds the accessories and whatever. I know he doesnt have an ffl. does anyone know if its required or no? seems kinda illegal to me but i just wanted to see if anyone knew.

[HeeHaw]

If he is buying a gun with the intention of reselling it, then yes that would be illegal as he would be considered a dealer.

I think a lot of people do that though. Could be bad for him if he got caught doing it.

[alvins]

oh yes he is buying them specifically to resell them.he wants me to buy one and cant figure out why i think ar15's are impractical for what i want.honestly i dont see how he makes money doing it but oh well.

he is one of those people who think the government has no right to regulate or tax anything.

[HeeHaw]

He will regret it once he gets busted and becomes a felon and loses his right to even own a gun.

It is okay to occasionally sell a gun person to person from a private collection. But doing what he is doing is going to get him in trouble. I would try and talk some sense into him if I were you.

I had a buddy who just last week asked me if he could do that. When I told him the possible consequences he changed his tune in a big hurry.

The small amount of money that could be made is no where near being worth what he could lose.

[pbwalker]

He will regret it once he gets busted and becomes a felon and loses his right to even own a gun.

It is okay to occasionally sell a gun person to person from a private collection. But doing what he is doing is going to get him in trouble. I would try and talk some sense into him if I were you.

I had a buddy who just last week asked me if he could do that. When I told him the possible consequences he changed his tune in a big hurry.

The small amount of money that could be made is no where near being worth what he could lose.

X10

[OldCannon]

If he's going "quickie" work where the customer remains within visible possession of the firearm, he can do the work. If somebody leaves the firearm with him, he's a "gunsmith" and is subject to the laws laid out by the ATF. Read the ATF's Gunsmith FAQ here:http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/gunsmiths.html

[alvins]

heh no he buys the parts and assembles them and such. and then sells them to people.... mainly rednecks.

even if i told him what he is doing is illegal he would just tell me the government has no right to do anything about it. thats why i usually never talk to him.

I buy guns with the intent to NEVER sell them.

[RECIT]

Big NO NO. But tons of people do it don't get caught and keep doing it. Not worth my rights to make a few bucks. And I mean a FEW. Sounds like some of the sellers on texasguntrader.com Buy something at retail price and turn around and mark it up 20% and put rare/custom in the listing title and viola.

[muleman]

im offended by the redneck comment.

[OldCannon]

Sounds like some of the sellers on texasguntrader.com Buy something at retail price and turn around and mark it up 20% and put rare/custom in the listing title and viola.

And equally annoying is when you post something for a very fair value on TGT and somebody offers you half of what you asked -- then gets offended when you say no. I've certainly learned that TGT has demographics that are statistically no different than Craigslist.

[RECIT]

And equally annoying is when you post something for a very fair value on TGT and somebody offers you half of what you asked -- then gets offended when you say no. I've certainly learned that TGT has demographics that are statistically no different than Craigslist.

That is so true.

[Grog]

If he were building guns from parts (even as simple as buying a complete lower and a complete upper), he would also be getting around the Federal Excise Tax.

For firearms, I think that is 11%.


While the ATF will just try to shoot you and burn your house down, the IRS will send an agent to the afterlife to collect their money.

[OldCannon]

...the IRS will send an agent to the afterlife to collect their money.

Send one?!! Where I'm probably going, I'm sure there's a LOT of IRS agents already there

[megs]

While the ATF will just try to shoot you and burn your house down, the IRS will send an agent to the afterlife to collect their money.

"Now my advice for those who die. Declare the pennies on your eyes." - The Beatles