Any Utah instructors?

[JamesTX10]

Can you recommend any instructors for the Utah permit in the Dallas area?

How much is the class?
How offten?

[Crossfire]

James -

I don't have a recommendation for you right now, but if you can wait until October, I will be a Utah instructor then.

[JamesTX10]

James -

I don't have a recommendation for you right now, but if you can wait until October, I will be a Utah instructor then.

How much will you charge?
I have a buddy in Arlington that wants to take the class too.

[Crossfire]

I'm not sure yet, cause I don't know what our cost will be. I charge $100 for the Texas CHL, so I was planning on, if you take the Texas class, to just add Utah to it for the additional cost of the extra photos, prints, and whatever else Utah requires.

If you already have a Texas CHL, then probably $75 as a stand alone class. It looks like they actually don't require as much training as Texas does, but of course, you have to learn their laws and pass their written test. I don't think there is a shooting test at all.

Like I said, I'm not 100% sure on all the details yet. How about if I get back to you on October 15 when I get back?

[JamesTX10]

Like I said, I'm not 100% sure on all the details yet. How about if I get back to you on October 15 when I get back?

Sounds great. I am planning on just getting the utah permit for now. But would like to take the TX class too.

[jbirds1210]

if you take the Texas class, to just add Utah to it for the additional cost of the extra photos, prints, and whatever else Utah requires.

That would be a wonderful service! Good idea!

[John]

When I did my renewal last year, the instructor offered the Utah as an add on for about $20.00 or $25.00 if I recall correctly. It was a no brainer at the time. This was in the houston area though. As a note, I copied my existing Texas CHL and sent the copy to Utah along with my application and had the license in a little over a week...

[GlockenHammer]

John, I'm looking for a UTAH instructor in the Houston area. Care to share yours?

I found this list on the UTAH DPS website:
TEXAS
THEODORE ADAMS...........theodoreadams@att.net
LOUIS A KEATING.............................. 903-464-9638
CELL.......................................... 903-744-3337
GREGORY LIRETTE........................... 214-552-6700
JAMES LOCHABAY ............................ 214 587-5854
CHARLES MCDONALD ...................... 972-539-6707
SCOTT MEADOWS............................. 713-941-6164
GREGORY PATE ................................ 281-358-8423
WAYNE POORMAN............................ 281-232-4445
WILLIAM SLATER ............................... 210-690-4253
TREY TENERY.................................... 214-327-9165
LYLE WINCENTSEN........................... 713-237-0705

I'm going to WA state this winter and it would be nice to be able to carry.

Thanks,
GH

[Mithras61]

John, I'm looking for a UTAH instructor in the Houston area. Care to share yours?

I found this list on the UTAH DPS website:
TEXAS
THEODORE ADAMS...........theodoreadams@att.net
LOUIS A KEATING.............................. 903-464-9638
CELL.......................................... 903-744-3337
GREGORY LIRETTE........................... 214-552-6700
JAMES LOCHABAY ............................ 214 587-5854
CHARLES MCDONALD ...................... 972-539-6707
SCOTT MEADOWS............................. 713-941-6164
GREGORY PATE ................................ 281-358-8423
WAYNE POORMAN............................ 281-232-4445
WILLIAM SLATER ............................... 210-690-4253
TREY TENERY.................................... 214-327-9165
LYLE WINCENTSEN........................... 713-237-0705

I'm going to WA state this winter and it would be nice to be able to carry.

Thanks,
GH

I've been considering getting a Utah permit as well. Maybe we can get enough people together to have a special class.

Does anyone know if there's a separate application for non-resident applications than their standard application? I checked their Concealeed Weapons Permit Homepage but didn't see anything specificly addressing this.

[JamesTX10]

Like I said, I'm not 100% sure on all the details yet. How about if I get back to you on October 15 when I get back?

Any new info yet?

[Venus Pax]

What benefit does the Utah license have for the Texas CHL holder?
I'm curious. If it's worth it, I may join you when you have the CHL forum class.

[Mithras61]

What benefit does the Utah license have for the Texas CHL holder?
I'm curious. If it's worth it, I may join you when you have the CHL forum class.

There are a few states that you pick up that recognize the Utah permit that don't recognize the TX permit (Washington, Minnesota, Ohio & New Hampshire). I plan to visit at least two of those states in the relatively near future.

[Crossfire]

OK, for all interested in the Utah CFP (Concealed Firearms Permit), I am just off the plane and have the info. I will try to answer all the questions I remember have been asked, but if I miss yours, just let me know.

First, why do I want a Utah permit?

Because it is a cheap and easy way to add 2 more reciprocal states, Washington and Ohio. Those are the only ones on the "official list" right now that Texas does not have, but it is currently under review by the Utah DPS.
Also, you can get a Utah permit and carry in Texas even if you don’t meet the Texas CHL eligibility requirements due to delinquent child support, state taxes, or student loans.

How much does it cost?

The license fee is $59, and is good for 5 years. The license expires 5 years from the date if issuance, and has nothing to do with your birthday. The renewal fee is $10, and there is no requirement for a renewal class.

What about the class?

Utah requires a class for new applicants to cover handgun familiarity, safe handling and storage, differences in ammunition, shooting fundamentals, and federal and state laws. There is NO shooting proficiency test and NO written test.

The Texas CHL new and renewal classes both meet the minimum requirements of the Utah license class, with the exception of Utah laws. I will offer the Utah license option in each Texas CHL class for an additional $25, to cover the additional fingerprint card and photo. It will take about an additional half hour at the end of class to cover the Utah laws and application process. If you already have your Texas CHL and just want the Utah license, then sign up for a regular Texas renewal class and let me know you need the Utah license instead. The cost will be the standard Texas renewal class fee of $70.

When is the class?

The first class will be held as soon as possible after I get my Utah instructor’s permit in the mail. Right now, it looks like December 2, the first Saturday. If I get the permit before then, I will let you all know. The entire Utah CFP department consists of only 5 people, and they are even more overwhelmed than the Texas DPS with applications right now. They promised to do their best to get instructor apps processed within 30 days. After the first class, the Utah license will be offered as an option with each Texas CHL. I teach at least one class a month.

Email or PM me if you are interested in the license, and I will make a mailing list to keep all interested parties updated. Any other questions, post them here.

[GlockenHammer]

Sounds great!

You say the Utah folks are overworked. Any estimates on how long it takes the license to come back (in case anyone has holiday travel plans)?

[Crossfire]

Utah has the same duty as Texas to issue the license within 60 days. Right now, they are averaging 67 days, and know they are not in compliance.

If you already have a Texas CHL, include a copy of it with your application, and you may receive your license in about 2 weeks.