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Travel thru Denver & CO in general
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:31 am
by patriot76
I'll be headiung back to ski country real soon. Although my permit is recognized in CO I've heard Denver is not to happy about permitted people who are armed.
Although I've never had a problem in CO and never pulled over, I'm wondering if the climate has changed since Aurora & Newton and perhaps Denver or CO troopers have become even more aggressive.
I plan to observe all traffic laws and never go faster than traffic is going. I will NOT open carry at any time.
Any feedback will be welcome!
Re: Travel thru Denver & CO in general
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:20 pm
by RoyGBiv
in Colorado your DL and your CHL MUST be from the same state or it's not honored.
CO is one of the reasons I got my TX CHL instead of relying solely on my FL permit.
Check here to CO local info.
http://www.ccw.co/forums/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.ccw.co/forums/viewtopic.php?f=108&t=275" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Travel thru Denver & CO in general
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:56 pm
by magicglock
Other than the previously mentioned "must have DL from same state as CHL" I have not heard of any other issues or aggression from local LEOs. Can you elaborate?
Re: Travel thru Denver & CO in general
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:57 pm
by A-R
I believe Denver has a municipal ordinance banning magazines over 20 rounds, but that's the only particular law I know off top of my head to watch out for.
Re: Travel thru Denver & CO in general
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 3:41 pm
by RoyGBiv
no OC under Denver's "Home Rule".
That's the main exception to state preemption that I'm aware of.
Check/read handgunlaw.us
Re: Travel thru Denver & CO in general
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 7:06 am
by justinjazz
I knew that Denver has this rule and I totally agree with A-R here.
Re: Travel thru Denver & CO in general
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 7:34 am
by RottenApple
We go to the Denver area (Lafayette, actually) every year. The one thing to remember is that any no gun sign has the force of law. If caught carrying, most businesses will just ask you to leave. There are a few, however, that will call LE. Then it's up to the officer to let you go with a waning or to give you a free ride to the station.
Re: Travel thru Denver & CO in general
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:24 am
by SewTexas
even when we lived there 5 years ago we usually left the guns in the car in Denver, mostly....depended on exactly which store we were at. If you're just driving thru D, don't worry, you'll be fine. As was said, in D, even a gun buster sign counts
and if you choose to carry into a place that isn't signed....please keep it concealed!!!
Re: Travel thru Denver & CO in general
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:40 am
by SF18C
You can Ski in New Mexico or Utah!
http://www.skiutah.com/winter/index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.skinewmexico.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I'm not sure Colorado deserves any money from a Pro-2nd Amendment person right now!!!
Re: Travel thru Denver & CO in general
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 11:11 am
by C-dub
RottenApple wrote:We go to the Denver area (Lafayette, actually) every year. The one thing to remember is that any no gun sign has the force of law. If caught carrying, most businesses will just ask you to leave. There are a few, however, that will call LE. Then it's up to the officer to let you go with a waning or to give you a free ride to the station.
This is incorrect. It has been discussed before because of the Aurora shooting and here is the first example I could find.
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Re: Travel thru Denver & CO in general
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 11:32 am
by RX8er
I know it's been discussed and I think it depends on where you go and what store. I work with a group that takes their aircraft to West Star Aviation in Grand Junction. One of the guys was escorted off property by LE and was told next time he enters while CC he would be arrested. After talking with other businesses in Grand Junction, most said that it was the owner choice to have a patron arrested if they had any notice of no guns allowed. The store owner told LE that he saw the IWB metal clips on his belt.
Here is what handgunlaw.us says:
Do “No Gun Signs” Have the Force of Law?
“YES”
After discussions with a Practicing Attorney in Colorado I have changed it to Yes that Gun Signs do have the
force of law. In many cases the person is just ask to leave and nothing happens. In instances where an Officer
is summoned it depends on the Officer. But you can be charged with Trespassing if the Officer believes it is
necessary and the owner wishes you to be charged. Any escalation of the situation on your part like not
leaving immediately if ask or giving the Owner or Officer a hard time you could also be charged with
menacing. The Attorney I talked to is a Defense Attorney and has had such cases.
Re: Travel thru Denver & CO in general
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 11:45 am
by C-dub
RX8er wrote:I know it's been discussed and I think it depends on where you go and what store. I work with a group that takes their aircraft to West Star Aviation in Grand Junction. One of the guys was escorted off property by LE and was told next time he enters while CC he would be arrested. After talking with other businesses in Grand Junction, most said that it was the owner choice to have a patron arrested if they had any notice of no guns allowed. The store owner told LE that he saw the IWB metal clips on his belt.
Here is what handgunlaw.us says:
Do “No Gun Signs” Have the Force of Law?
“YES”
After discussions with a Practicing Attorney in Colorado I have changed it to Yes that Gun Signs do have the
force of law. In many cases the person is just ask to leave and nothing happens. In instances where an Officer
is summoned it depends on the Officer. But you can be charged with Trespassing if the Officer believes it is
necessary and the owner wishes you to be charged. Any escalation of the situation on your part like not
leaving immediately if ask or giving the Owner or Officer a hard time you could also be charged with
menacing. The Attorney I talked to is a Defense Attorney and has had such cases.
This may all be dependent on the person carrying being asked to leave and deciding not to, for whatever reason.
Re: Travel thru Denver & CO in general
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:05 pm
by RX8er
C-dub wrote:This may all be dependent on the person carrying being asked to leave and deciding not to, for whatever reason.
Agreed in most cases. In this case, the store owner called LE without asking the three guys to leave. Wanted the cops to handle it.
Re: Travel thru Denver & CO in general
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:00 am
by texanjoker
I'll simply carry my glock 23 when I visit in June.... should be ok
Re: Travel thru Denver & CO in general
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:58 pm
by FL450
RX8er wrote:I know it's been discussed and I think it depends on where you go and what store. I work with a group that takes their aircraft to West Star Aviation in Grand Junction. One of the guys was escorted off property by LE and was told next time he enters while CC he would be arrested. After talking with other businesses in Grand Junction, most said that it was the owner choice to have a patron arrested if they had any notice of no guns allowed. The store owner told LE that he saw the IWB metal clips on his belt.
Here is what handgunlaw.us says:
Do “No Gun Signs” Have the Force of Law?
“YES”
After discussions with a Practicing Attorney in Colorado I have changed it to Yes that Gun Signs do have the
force of law. In many cases the person is just ask to leave and nothing happens. In instances where an Officer
is summoned it depends on the Officer. But you can be charged with Trespassing if the Officer believes it is
necessary and the owner wishes you to be charged. Any escalation of the situation on your part like not
leaving immediately if ask or giving the Owner or Officer a hard time you could also be charged with
menacing. The Attorney I talked to is a Defense Attorney and has had such cases.
Thanks for the heads up. I will not do any business with West Star nor reccomend them to anyone.
There are plenty of other aircraft maintinace facilitys out there to choose from.