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“All federal acts, laws, executive orders, administrative orders, court orders, rules, and regulations, whether past, present, or future, which infringe on the people’s right to keep and bear arms as guaranteed by the Second Amendment to the United States I and Section 23 of the Missouri Constitution shall be invalid in this state, shall not be recognized by this state, shall be specifically rejected by this state, and shall be considered null and void and of no effect in this state.”

Nice sentiment. Call me when it's signed by the Governor.

RoyGBiv wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:29 pm Nice sentiment. Call me when it's signed by the Governor.

They have a 2/3rds majority. It can bypass the governor if need be.

PriestTheRunner wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:37 pm

RoyGBiv wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:29 pm Nice sentiment. Call me when it's signed by the Governor.

They have a 2/3rds majority. It can bypass the governor if need be.

It would be amazing to see this run through and get signed. This would essentially create a "2A sanctuary state" which I always imagined Texas to be. We'll get there....

Wish Texas would do that.

Don't count your chickens before they hatch. It only passed their state senate so far.

However, it's a great example of what's possible in a state with pro gun legislators.

Just came here to post this.

THIS is what a real pro-2A state looks like, not this Mickey Mouse LTC fee waiving stuff we're debating this session.

kayt00 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:41 pm

PriestTheRunner wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:37 pm

RoyGBiv wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:29 pm Nice sentiment. Call me when it's signed by the Governor.

They have a 2/3rds majority. It can bypass the governor if need be.

It would be amazing to see this run through and get signed. This would essentially create a "2A sanctuary state" which I always imagined Texas to be. We'll get there....

Nope. Our legislature's leaders don't have the stomach for this. Dan Patrick doesn't have the spine.

Does this mean machine guns, suppressors and SBR's are allowed with no tax? Will the Missouri government fight the federal government when a Missourian is caught with a NFA item and no stamp on basis of this law?

jason812 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:58 am Does this mean machine guns, suppressors and SBR's are allowed with no tax? Will the Missouri government fight the federal government when a Missourian is caught with a NFA item and no stamp on basis of this law?

It means it's not a state violation to have those things. If the feds catch you with them and prosecute you, they (the Feds) will have to do it without Missouri's help. I doubt Missouri will defend you, but I don't know if the bill addresses that or not.

There is also a legitimate constitutional question as to whether NFA items manufactured totally within a state and sold only to that state's residents can be federally regulated, since it's not interstate commerce. This bill could set up a court challenge for that.

This is following the lead of the states that legalized marijuana, and to a lessor extent sanctuary cities. Liberals can't honestly support those and oppose this. Well they can because liberals are dishonest, but logically they can't.

Scott Farkus wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:30 am

jason812 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:58 am Does this mean machine guns, suppressors and SBR's are allowed with no tax? Will the Missouri government fight the federal government when a Missourian is caught with a NFA item and no stamp on basis of this law?

It means it's not a state violation to have those things. If the feds catch you with them and prosecute you, they (the Feds) will have to do it without Missouri's help. I doubt Missouri will defend you, but I don't know if the bill addresses that or not.

There is also a legitimate constitutional question as to whether NFA items manufactured totally within a state and sold only to that state's residents can be federally regulated, since it's not interstate commerce. This bill could set up a court challenge for that.

This is following the lead of the states that legalized marijuana, and to a lessor extent sanctuary cities. Liberals can't honestly support those and oppose this. Well they can because liberals are dishonest, but logically they can't.

Per Wickard v. Filburn and SCOTUS it is interstate commerce because it has an affect on interstate commerce. This is one of the worst and most impactful SCOTUS decisions ever made.

Papa_Tiger wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:47 am Per Wickard v. Filburn and SCOTUS it is interstate commerce because it has an affect on interstate commerce. This is one of the worst and most impactful SCOTUS decisions ever made.

Agreed. Until that one is overturned we can't get a true federal system back on track.

Although, I don't think the current (or any future) SCOTUS has the stomach for it because it would gut much of the federal laws on the books.

Papa_Tiger wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:47 am Per Wickard v. Filburn and SCOTUS it is interstate commerce because it has an affect on interstate commerce. This is one of the worst and most impactful SCOTUS decisions ever made.

That's the one about the farmer growing his own wheat, right? Yes, I agree that's one of the most horrendous decisions ever, on par with that other one that we won't mention. Would be really nice to get another crack at it if we can get another conservative on the court. Maybe this bill would do it, maybe not but it certainly seems germane.

jason812 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:58 am Does this mean machine guns, suppressors and SBR's are allowed with no tax? Will the Missouri government fight the federal government when a Missourian is caught with a NFA item and no stamp on basis of this law?

I don't think it means they will go that far. I think it only means Missouri won't give aid and comfort to the enemies of the constitution. To look to a historical example, there's a difference between a Frenchman during WW2 refusing to be a collaborator, and being an active member of the resistance.

ok, Missouri just went on the job hunt list.