Editorial: Pellet gun incident raises questions over potenti

[RPB]

Editorial: Pellet gun incident raises questions over potential legislation
By The East Texan Editorial Board

Published: Friday, April 8, 2011

Updated: Friday, April 8, 2011 18:04
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[Beiruty]

Yeah, how ridiculous is it?. As if the LEOs would not shoot on-sight when some idiot point an object that 100% look like at pistol at them. Last year, in Dallas, one guy was killed (suicide by cop style) when he pointed a card box shaped to look like a pistol. Where is the Professional training? Ha?

On the other hand, I am also on the side, that CHLer should shout commands before engaging the threat, unless bullet are already flying or guns are directly pointed at the CHLer.

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[RPB]

Personally my strategy is all laid out in my mind.

I see a gun exposed, I get more alert

I see a gun drawn, I move towards an exit

I see a gun drawn in a threatening manner ... I'm out the door/window.

[Beiruty]

Personally my strategy is all laid out in my mind.

I see a gun exposed, I get more alert

I see a gun drawn, I move towards an exit

I see a gun drawn in a threatening manner ... I'm out the door/window.

And when do you plan on using your EDC?

[RPB]

Personally my strategy is all laid out in my mind.

I see a gun exposed, I get more alert

I see a gun drawn, I move towards an exit

I see a gun drawn in a threatening manner ... I'm out the door/window.

And when do you plan on using your EDC?

I didn't get my last "police/vigilante paycheck" I'm on strike when it comes to stopping people with pellet guns/fake rifles.

If my life is endangered and there's no way out, I'll take the appropriate action at that time. So far only 2 guys had their guns at my head and had my and the others lay on the floor, and another 5 robbed another store I was working in.

I'll use it when I need it.

When I had a gun at my head, I could have disarmed the guy in a flash, but saw his buddy with a gun on my manager and cashier. so, I said "You gonna lock us up?" (We had 2 store rooms, well one was a door and a fabric curtain divider between the store so we could walk out the cuirtain, and there was a phone there)

He was real nervous, sweating and starting to shake and like break into a rash of bumpy skin. (They had no plan)
He said uhhhhh ok, "hey. lets lock them up"

One told us to lay on the floor as he was going towards the door, instead of towards us, they wanted to get more merchandise since we had little cash.... if he had looked like he was coming towards us going to shoot us, it would be time to react differently than Colin Goddard did ... I don't intend to play possum while getting shot 4 times over a ten minute period.

We had only been open a few minutes, They scored about 50 dollars. mostly coins, and an 8-track player for the car.

[Beiruty]

RPB,

You are lucky! What a story,

However, when you were on the floor flat face down, who is stopping the BG from pulling the trigger? I learned when someone is controlling you and asking you to go to the back room, he is most likely is intending to inflict big harm, worst case, execution style.

I guess you were outnumbered and outgunned and you played it cool and took your chances.

BTW, were the BG ever caught?

[RPB]

That occurred in the 1970s, about 1972 I was about 18 years old.

So it was prior to being allowed to carry under a CHL, my manager was a Viet Nam vet who insisted (about an hour before we opened that day) that he'd fight off bad guys by hitting them with the cash drawer

The cashier earlier said no one would rob us ever, they get 10 pounds of change in a paper sack which would break as they ran down the street.

She actually argued with the guy "No, there's no money under the drawer" and "You seriously want all the change?"

I was in the back of the store praying my manager/cashier saw my situation like I knew theirs. and that Gary wouldn't start whacking the front robber with the cash drawer

In the 1970s. criminals were less cold blooded, nowadays they think they need to eliminate witnesses, although most people can't describe anything but how big the gun looked anyway.

Nah, this was on Main Street, downtown Houston, police on Trikes giving parking tickets right outside (meter maids, though) and police at Sears across the street in a restaurant Sears had. Never caught them for that, probably for some other crime down the road though.

The owners came right away .... they needed to invent other stuff that was stolen for the insurance company but don't recall them asking how we were. According to the owners, the bad guys must have brought a truck, but they were on foot. I can't understand how they could carry the equivalent of 4 pianos ... I quit soon afterwards, I don't like to work for crooks any more than being robbed by them. Our cost on the 8-track was about $10.00 actually might have been $200 in change ... it was a lot of coins. If it had only been 1 robber, and I had taken his gun, we'd have gotten more value from the exchange than he would have. Both had loaded revolvers, one blued, one stainless, round nosed lead bullets no jacketed.

[mreavis]

I know everyone has to start somewhere and learning is part of life. But I am getting very very tired of hearing these hypothetical fear based 'what if' situation arguments.

Why is it even a question of 'what if'? It isn't like we are doing anything for the first time in our country. All they need to do is look at the places that have concealed carry and even the campuses that allow it. Problem SOLVED! It just doesn't happen, enough said.

I feel like their arguments are the same as me worrying that farmers are not going to make food tomorrow. I have no logical or historical reason to think that. But I am REALLLLLY worried they are just going to not make anymore food now.

I also find it hilarious when those same people point out to pro campus carry individuals that they don't need to worry about mass shootings because they almost never happen. Yeah? Well you know what has absolutely never happened? A CHL holder with a gun creating any problems on a college campus.

Although I do think some of our supporters over emphasize mass shootings as the reason for this bill. That is a very very small part of it in my opinion.

/Rant