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JALLEN wrote:Could anybody actually be this dumb?

https://www.youtube.com/embed/HJGB80cSOGE
Really. He didn't even mention the shoulder thing that goes up!

Gotta watch those deadly bullet buttons. :shock:
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Pawpaw wrote:
JALLEN wrote:Could anybody actually be this dumb?

https://www.youtube.com/embed/HJGB80cSOGE
Really. He didn't even mention the shoulder thing that goes up!

Gotta watch those deadly bullet buttons. :shock:


Well, it wasn't as bad as I expected. Not sure what the "auto button" thing is he was talking about. I've been looking all morning for mine and can't find it. Of course, guys spend years looking for the elusive "fun button" on women and sometimes can't ever find it either.

I'm sure other people than myself are also tired of hearing about how Sean Hannity is a "Marksman". Well, last night he and the NYPD detective "Bo" were on and BOTH were talking about changing "clips" in their guns. Made my skin crawl.

But as for news guys, this wasn't so bad. I remember reading in the paper in 1990 about the reporting seeing the F-18 take off with its "thruster-boosters". At least this guy kind of tried to point out that it isn't an assault rifle in its native state!! Kudos to him for that!

Finally, if these thugs would watch a few gun videos on YouTube they'd really crap themselves. Watch the video where Jerry keeps up with a guy with a slide fire stock. I think they clocked in around 450 rpm. Who needs full auto when you can legally get a Geissele 3-gun trigger or slide fire stock? Ohhhh what the liberals don't know!
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You know, I just had another brilliant idea.

Perhaps someone with more time on their hands and talent in their brain than me can make a series of "What if" videos.

Simulate or stage similar shootings and then run the scenario again where a few CHLs are present. Make it realistic. Even if people say "this is made up", MANY people will probably get the essence of the video that a CHL could at least deter or maybe even prevent more deaths.

All lives matter (contrary to what the Black Lives Matter group believes), but if you cant take 14 dead down to 4, there are 10 families that would be forever in your debt. That's 10 lives saved, many wounded saved, and then all of the families and friends who would be negatively affected by them. You'd positively affect hundreds or even thousands of people.

So make a video of a guy in Oregon shooting up a room and then two CHL guys (or girls) stand up and take him out. Make a video of two muslims shooting up the office party and some secretary ends up saving the rest of the people with her gun. Make a video of terrorists walking down the streets of Paris... Show a guy shooting up a Luby's. Maybe sometimes the CHL doesn't hit anything. Maybe they just deter the shooter. Maybe they even get shot themselves. But on the whole, the results should show that the CHL SAVES LIVES.
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Beiruty wrote: {snip}
The more the screws are tightened on ISIS the more of this criminal behavior would pop up.
With respect, I do not understand this statement.
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Feed&Guns wrote:
Pawpaw wrote:
JALLEN wrote:Could anybody actually be this dumb?

https://www.youtube.com/embed/HJGB80cSOGE
Really. He didn't even mention the shoulder thing that goes up!

Gotta watch those deadly bullet buttons. :shock:


Well, it wasn't as bad as I expected. Not sure what the "auto button" thing is he was talking about. I've been looking all morning for mine and can't find it. Of course, guys spend years looking for the elusive "fun button" on women and sometimes can't ever find it either.

I'm sure other people than myself are also tired of hearing about how Sean Hannity is a "Marksman". Well, last night he and the NYPD detective "Bo" were on and BOTH were talking about changing "clips" in their guns. Made my skin crawl.

But as for news guys, this wasn't so bad. I remember reading in the paper in 1990 about the reporting seeing the F-18 take off with its "thruster-boosters". At least this guy kind of tried to point out that it isn't an assault rifle in its native state!! Kudos to him for that!

Finally, if these thugs would watch a few gun videos on YouTube they'd really crap themselves. Watch the video where Jerry keeps up with a guy with a slide fire stock. I think they clocked in around 450 rpm. Who needs full auto when you can legally get a Geissele 3-gun trigger or slide fire stock? Ohhhh what the liberals don't know!
He was talking about how modifying a rifle by the addition of a "bullet button" would turn it into a legal fully automatic rifle, which is of course, hogwash. A "bullet button" is a California (only?) item that replaces the AR-15 magazine release button. With a bullet button installed, you have to use the point of a bullet, or some other tool, to remove the magazine. It's a way to get around their crazy laws.
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http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSK ... me=topNews

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Feed&Guns wrote:You know, I just had another brilliant idea.

Perhaps someone with more time on their hands and talent in their brain than me can make a series of "What if" videos.

Simulate or stage similar shootings and then run the scenario again where a few CHLs are present. Make it realistic. Even if people say "this is made up", MANY people will probably get the essence of the video that a CHL could at least deter or maybe even prevent more deaths.

All lives matter (contrary to what the Black Lives Matter group believes), but if you cant take 14 dead down to 4, there are 10 families that would be forever in your debt. That's 10 lives saved, many wounded saved, and then all of the families and friends who would be negatively affected by them. You'd positively affect hundreds or even thousands of people.

So make a video of a guy in Oregon shooting up a room and then two CHL guys (or girls) stand up and take him out. Make a video of two muslims shooting up the office party and some secretary ends up saving the rest of the people with her gun. Make a video of terrorists walking down the streets of Paris... Show a guy shooting up a Luby's. Maybe sometimes the CHL doesn't hit anything. Maybe they just deter the shooter. Maybe they even get shot themselves. But on the whole, the results should show that the CHL SAVES LIVES.
There is a place in Waco with something similar to what you are describing. It is firearm simulation training and is used by many of the local police forces and open to the public as well. They use real Glock 19's and AR15's modified to run off air with a laser in the barrel to shoot scenarios on a projector screen. I go once a month and feel it is very good training. It will open your eyes to what you are made of and what is legal to do and not do in various situations. I'm not affiliated with them in any way but their website is h5tactical.com. Anybody interested in going should probably call ahead to make an appointment, especially on the weekends.

It's not for study purposes as you are suggesting but you will see that a good guy with a gun stops a bad guy with a gun.
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Rioting AGAINST free speech. Judging by the up and down votes there are a whole lot of people who hate free speech.
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http://www.hannity.com/articles/hanpr-w ... -14177844/

More evidence of planning:
According to the pastor of one of the victims of the San Bernardino terror attack, just weeks prior to the deadly shooting, Sayed Farook told Nicholas Thalasinos—a devout Messianic Jew and fellow health inspector—“You will never see Israel.”
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jason812 wrote:
Feed&Guns wrote:You know, I just had another brilliant idea.

Perhaps someone with more time on their hands and talent in their brain than me can make a series of "What if" videos.

Simulate or stage similar shootings and then run the scenario again where a few CHLs are present. Make it realistic. Even if people say "this is made up", MANY people will probably get the essence of the video that a CHL could at least deter or maybe even prevent more deaths.

All lives matter (contrary to what the Black Lives Matter group believes), but if you cant take 14 dead down to 4, there are 10 families that would be forever in your debt. That's 10 lives saved, many wounded saved, and then all of the families and friends who would be negatively affected by them. You'd positively affect hundreds or even thousands of people.

So make a video of a guy in Oregon shooting up a room and then two CHL guys (or girls) stand up and take him out. Make a video of two muslims shooting up the office party and some secretary ends up saving the rest of the people with her gun. Make a video of terrorists walking down the streets of Paris... Show a guy shooting up a Luby's. Maybe sometimes the CHL doesn't hit anything. Maybe they just deter the shooter. Maybe they even get shot themselves. But on the whole, the results should show that the CHL SAVES LIVES.
There is a place in Waco with something similar to what you are describing. It is firearm simulation training and is used by many of the local police forces and open to the public as well. They use real Glock 19's and AR15's modified to run off air with a laser in the barrel to shoot scenarios on a projector screen. I go once a month and feel it is very good training. It will open your eyes to what you are made of and what is legal to do and not do in various situations. I'm not affiliated with them in any way but their website is h5tactical.com. Anybody interested in going should probably call ahead to make an appointment, especially on the weekends.

It's not for study purposes as you are suggesting but you will see that a good guy with a gun stops a bad guy with a gun.
I think Gander Mtn has that same simulator. It's booked solid through December. They can change "shoot/no shoot" scenarios. Actually, that training might be good. I was talking more about filiming a documentary type movie and show "here's what happened" and "here's our realistic version of what might have happened if someone had a gun" and then show at the end of the film the body count...the real count and then our hypothetical count. Again, there WILL be dead bodies likely! But maybe there'd be fewer. We know the liberal media wouldn't dare post the "man with gun saves lives of many."
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Pawpaw wrote:
Feed&Guns wrote:
Pawpaw wrote:
JALLEN wrote:Could anybody actually be this dumb?

https://www.youtube.com/embed/HJGB80cSOGE
Really. He didn't even mention the shoulder thing that goes up!

Gotta watch those deadly bullet buttons. :shock:


Well, it wasn't as bad as I expected. Not sure what the "auto button" thing is he was talking about. I've been looking all morning for mine and can't find it. Of course, guys spend years looking for the elusive "fun button" on women and sometimes can't ever find it either.

I'm sure other people than myself are also tired of hearing about how Sean Hannity is a "Marksman". Well, last night he and the NYPD detective "Bo" were on and BOTH were talking about changing "clips" in their guns. Made my skin crawl.

But as for news guys, this wasn't so bad. I remember reading in the paper in 1990 about the reporting seeing the F-18 take off with its "thruster-boosters". At least this guy kind of tried to point out that it isn't an assault rifle in its native state!! Kudos to him for that!

Finally, if these thugs would watch a few gun videos on YouTube they'd really crap themselves. Watch the video where Jerry keeps up with a guy with a slide fire stock. I think they clocked in around 450 rpm. Who needs full auto when you can legally get a Geissele 3-gun trigger or slide fire stock? Ohhhh what the liberals don't know!
He was talking about how modifying a rifle by the addition of a "bullet button" would turn it into a legal fully automatic rifle, which is of course, hogwash. A "bullet button" is a California (only?) item that replaces the AR-15 magazine release button. With a bullet button installed, you have to use the point of a bullet, or some other tool, to remove the magazine. It's a way to get around their crazy laws.
It's a loophole! Please give it the dignitude it merits.

Before some genius figured this out, we in CA were essentially barred the possession and use of "assault rifles" named by make and model as well as by defined "evil features."

The statute had this loophole, if the magazine could be released only by using a tool, like a bullet, you could have a rifle with evil features.

I built one with a bullet button, and removed it when I left CA, although not actually while on the bridge to Yuma.
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Oldgringo wrote:
Beiruty wrote: {snip}
The more the screws are tightened on ISIS the more of this criminal behavior would pop up.
With respect, I do not understand this statement.
I suspect that he means that the more that ISIS is contained or reduced inside what is currently their own territory, the more they will attack outside of their own controlled territory to draw their attackers attentions away from attacking ISIS in their own territory.
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JALLEN wrote:Could anybody actually be this dumb?

https://www.youtube.com/embed/HJGB80cSOGE
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Governor Moonbeam blames Nevada and Arizona.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... -arizona-/
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