U.S. Supreme Court rejects challenge to assault weapon ban

As the name indicates, this is the place for gun-related political discussions. It is not open to other political topics.

Moderators: carlson1, Charles L. Cotton


Topic author
dhoobler
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 490
Joined: Mon Feb 25, 2008 2:58 pm
Location: Friendswood, TX

U.S. Supreme Court rejects challenge to assault weapon ban

#1

Post by dhoobler »

Revolver - An elegant weapon... for a more civilized age.
NRA Endowment Life Member
TSRA Life Member
User avatar

Beiruty
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 9655
Joined: Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:22 pm
Location: Allen, Texas

Re: U.S. Supreme Court rejects challenge to assault weapon ban

#2

Post by Beiruty »

Oops. I thought they rejected the ban!
Last edited by Beiruty on Mon Dec 07, 2015 3:24 pm, edited 3 times in total.
Beiruty,
United we stand, dispersed we falter
2014: NRA Endowment lifetime member
User avatar

baldeagle
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 5240
Joined: Tue May 25, 2010 8:26 pm
Location: Richardson, TX

Re: U.S. Supreme Court rejects challenge to assault weapon ban

#3

Post by baldeagle »

Beiruty, how is this good news?
The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday rejected a challenge by gun rights activists to a Chicago suburb's ordinance banning assault weapons and large-capacity magazines, handing a victory to gun control advocates amid a fierce debate over the nation's firearms laws.
The Constitution preserves the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation where the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. James Madison
NRA Life Member Texas Firearms Coalition member

FastCarry
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 438
Joined: Tue Jul 05, 2011 3:16 pm

Re: U.S. Supreme Court rejects challenge to assault weapon ban

#4

Post by FastCarry »

Ouch..so SCOTUS refusing to step in and decide on an ordinance.

Thats going to give way to other suburbs trying the same thing know SCOTUS isn't getting involved
User avatar

Jago668
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 992
Joined: Sun May 03, 2015 12:31 am

Re: U.S. Supreme Court rejects challenge to assault weapon ban

#5

Post by Jago668 »

Yup most definitely bad news.
NRA Benefactor Member

dlh
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 872
Joined: Tue Aug 18, 2015 12:16 pm

Re: U.S. Supreme Court rejects challenge to assault weapon ban

#6

Post by dlh »

The good news is that we live in Texas. No worries here.

I am sure the thugs in that Illinois city will follow the law...not.

dlh
Please know and follow the rules of firearms safety.
User avatar

Vol Texan
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 2362
Joined: Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:18 am
Location: Houston
Contact:

Re: U.S. Supreme Court rejects challenge to assault weapon ban

#7

Post by Vol Texan »

baldeagle wrote:Beiruty, how is this good news?
The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday rejected a challenge by gun rights activists to a Chicago suburb's ordinance banning assault weapons and large-capacity magazines, handing a victory to gun control advocates amid a fierce debate over the nation's firearms laws.
It COULD be good news. This court has (repeatedly) swung to the left a few times recently. I'd rather have NO decision from this court than a BAD decision. No decision isolates this ban to a small area of the country. A bad decision can change the law of the land.

To quote Charles Cotton, "Never ask a court, unless you have no alternative."

Then again, after 8 years of President Cruz, the court might look a bit different.
Your best option for personal security is a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation.
When those fail, aim for center mass.

www.HoustonLTC.com Texas LTC Instructor | www.Texas3006.com Moderator | Tennessee Squire | Armored Cavalry
User avatar

Charles L. Cotton
Site Admin
Posts in topic: 2
Posts: 17787
Joined: Wed Dec 22, 2004 9:31 pm
Location: Friendswood, TX
Contact:

Re: U.S. Supreme Court rejects challenge to assault weapon ban

#8

Post by Charles L. Cotton »

To those who so fervently argue that "shall not be infringed" means that no restrictive laws are constitutional, I hope you will read this decision. As I've noted countless times in 35 years, our opinions about the Second Amendment do not matter. The opinions that matter are those held by at least 5 of 9 Supreme Court Justices.

The next time you hear or read a complaint by the "all-or-nothing" crowd that the NRA and/or TSRA "compromise," consider both the source and how things work in the real world. Politics has correctly been described as the "art of the possible." Political and legislative success are the result of hard work by people and organizations who know what is possible, when to promote an issue, and not to overstate their position. Oh yes, experience and credibility are also critical ingredients in the recipe for success.

Chas.
User avatar

ScottDLS
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 3
Posts: 5072
Joined: Sun Jun 26, 2005 1:04 am
Location: DFW Area, TX

Re: U.S. Supreme Court rejects challenge to assault weapon ban

#9

Post by ScottDLS »

Charles L. Cotton wrote:
To those who so fervently argue that "shall not be infringed" means that no restrictive laws are constitutional, I hope you will read this decision. As I've noted countless times in 35 years, our opinions about the Second Amendment do not matter. The opinions that matter are those held by at least 5 of 9 Supreme Court Justices.

The next time you hear or read a complaint by the "all-or-nothing" crowd that the NRA and/or TSRA "compromise," consider both the source and how things work in the real world. Politics has correctly been described as the "art of the possible." Political and legislative success are the result of hard work by people and organizations who know what is possible, when to promote an issue, and not to overstate their position.

Chas.

I believe it to be beneficial that they didn't take the case...in that it's less of a "decision" than a "pass". It's a shame that one can't depend on the Supreme Court to interpret the plain meaning of the Constitution, but in the last 80 years or so they clearly haven't. So the incremental approach taken by NRA/TSRA is superior.

Let's remember that the States are important too. That's where NRA has made huge progress in the last 30 years with CC, "stand your ground", etc. It's also arguably where the Constitutionally permissible regulation of firearms belongs.

Interestingly though, isn't this the 7th circuit that upheld forcing Illinois to allow concealed carry statewide?
4/13/1996 Completed CHL Class, 4/16/1996 Fingerprints, Affidavits, and Application Mailed, 10/4/1996 Received CHL, renewed 1998, 2002, 2006, 2011, 2016...). "ATF... Uhhh...heh...heh....Alcohol, tobacco, and GUNS!! Cool!!!!"

The Wall
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 819
Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:59 am

Re: U.S. Supreme Court rejects challenge to assault weapon ban

#10

Post by The Wall »

So just paint all of your guns pink. :lol:
User avatar

VMI77
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 6096
Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 5:49 pm
Location: Victoria, Texas

Re: U.S. Supreme Court rejects challenge to assault weapon ban

#11

Post by VMI77 »

I'm cynical but I can't help but think given the timing that a message is being sent to clear the way for a national ban on semi-automatic weapons. Essentially the court is saying it will allow such a ban by a 7 to 2 margin. I'm not particularly reassured by a Republican Congress given how assiduously they've proved they can't be trusted. Part of me is saying it's not going to happen while another part is urging suspicion.
"Journalism, n. A job for people who flunked out of STEM courses, enjoy making up stories, and have no detectable integrity or morals."

From the WeaponsMan blog, weaponsman.com
User avatar

maintenanceguy
Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 85
Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:24 pm

Re: U.S. Supreme Court rejects challenge to assault weapon ban

#12

Post by maintenanceguy »

When they decide not to hear a case, they basically are deciding to let the lower court ruling stand. It may not be as strong as if they ruled in favor of the lower court after hearing the case but the certainly decided not to override the lower court. We lost.
User avatar

ScottDLS
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 3
Posts: 5072
Joined: Sun Jun 26, 2005 1:04 am
Location: DFW Area, TX

Re: U.S. Supreme Court rejects challenge to assault weapon ban

#13

Post by ScottDLS »

maintenanceguy wrote:When they decide not to hear a case, they basically are deciding to let the lower court ruling stand. It may not be as strong as if they ruled in favor of the lower court after hearing the case but the certainly decided not to override the lower court. We lost.
We already "lost" when the 1994 Federal ban was upheld.
4/13/1996 Completed CHL Class, 4/16/1996 Fingerprints, Affidavits, and Application Mailed, 10/4/1996 Received CHL, renewed 1998, 2002, 2006, 2011, 2016...). "ATF... Uhhh...heh...heh....Alcohol, tobacco, and GUNS!! Cool!!!!"

hovercat
Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 191
Joined: Tue Apr 07, 2015 6:36 am
Location: Pantego, TX

Re: U.S. Supreme Court rejects challenge to assault weapon ban

#14

Post by hovercat »

The justices who are on our side may have decided that they could not count upon the vote of the swing votes. So they put it off, hoping for a better day. The SCOTUS does not like to rule against a prior ruling.
User avatar

Charles L. Cotton
Site Admin
Posts in topic: 2
Posts: 17787
Joined: Wed Dec 22, 2004 9:31 pm
Location: Friendswood, TX
Contact:

Re: U.S. Supreme Court rejects challenge to assault weapon ban

#15

Post by Charles L. Cotton »

hovercat wrote:The justices who are on our side may have decided that they could not count upon the vote of the swing votes. So they put it off, hoping for a better day. The SCOTUS does not like to rule against a prior ruling.
:thumbs2:

Chas.
Post Reply

Return to “Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues”