“Universal” Background Checks Aren’t as Universally Popular as You’ve Been Led to Believe

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NRA-ILA: “Universal” Background Checks Aren’t as Universally Popular as You’ve Been Led to Believe

The gun grabbers outspent the NRA by 3-or-5 to-1 and still lost at the ballot box in Maine and Nevada.

The billionaire oligarchs like Bloomberg & Buffett tried and failed to buy and lie our fundamental rights away.
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Uh, we already knew that those were lies perpetrated by gun grabbers.
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UBCs weren't defeated in Nevada. I would expect that they've probably gained traction since 2016 also.
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I am finding that people who do not own guns think there is presently no background check for most people buying one. The dumb struck look they get when they are told there already is a background check is why I believe this. The Dems have made much of the fairy tail "gun show loophole". It has given people the idea that people in mass are walking into gun shows and buying firearms with no background check. The non gun owning public is under a misconception of the entire gun buying process. The Dems are giving people the perception that it is like buying soap.
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03Lightningrocks wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:10 pm I am finding that people who do not own guns think there is presently no background check for most people buying one. The dumb struck look they get when they are told there already is a background check is why I believe this. The Dems have made much of the fairy tail "gun show loophole". It has given people the idea that people in mass are walking into gun shows and buying firearms with no background check. The non gun owning public is under a misconception of the entire gun buying process. The Dems are giving people the perception that it is like buying soap.
That's so true. People have no idea that the vast majority of guns sold at gun shows involve background checks. The propaganda is so thick.
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Paladin wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:43 am
03Lightningrocks wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:10 pm I am finding that people who do not own guns think there is presently no background check for most people buying one. The dumb struck look they get when they are told there already is a background check is why I believe this. The Dems have made much of the fairy tail "gun show loophole". It has given people the idea that people in mass are walking into gun shows and buying firearms with no background check. The non gun owning public is under a misconception of the entire gun buying process. The Dems are giving people the perception that it is like buying soap.
That's so true. People have no idea that the vast majority of guns sold at gun shows involve background checks. The propaganda is so thick.
I haven't been to a gun show in a couple of years now, but from what I remember, the only firearms being sold by private individuals (not licensed dealers) were mostly old revolvers and bolt action rifles. Quite a few were military surplus bolt actions like Springfields, Mausers, Arisakas, that sort of thing. I remember seeing a guy walking around the Will Rogers Center in Fort Worth with a scoped bolt-action rifle that had a sign on it saying "For Sale". All the "cool guns" like semi-automatic pistols and ARs/AKs, etc, they were all being sold by licensed dealers...who we all know make you fill out the paperwork just like buying one in a gun store.

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I had an online discussion with a gun grabber the other day about 'Universal' checks. I tried to explain, if UBC's are written in to legislation, that will end all private sales. They were very surprised to learn that privates sales don't require background checks now and in his/her opinion, they should happen immediately. The idea of due process for Red Flag legislation was equally stunning, Their idea of due process was, get the guns now, have a hearing "sometime later after they are seized". The idea of a hearing before a seizure was like speaking Latin to a non-Roman. When I explained that sometimes people lie to get an EPO, that was like saying the sky is green to this grabber. The naivete on our side, the 2A supporters is getting dangerous. The gun grabbers need to be defeated as soon as possible.
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baseballguy2001 wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2019 3:36 pm I had an online discussion with a gun grabber the other day about 'Universal' checks. I tried to explain, if UBC's are written in to legislation, that will end all private sales. They were very surprised to learn that privates sales don't require background checks now and in his/her opinion, they should happen immediately. The idea of due process for Red Flag legislation was equally stunning, Their idea of due process was, get the guns now, have a hearing "sometime later after they are seized". The idea of a hearing before a seizure was like speaking Latin to a non-Roman. When I explained that sometimes people lie to get an EPO, that was like saying the sky is green to this grabber. The naivete on our side, the 2A supporters is getting dangerous. The gun grabbers need to be defeated as soon as possible.
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03Lightningrocks wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:10 pm I am finding that people who do not own guns think there is presently no background check for most people buying one. The dumb struck look they get when they are told there already is a background check is why I believe this. The Dems have made much of the fairy tail "gun show loophole". It has given people the idea that people in mass are walking into gun shows and buying firearms with no background check. The non gun owning public is under a misconception of the entire gun buying process. The Dems are giving people the perception that it is like buying soap.
very well stated
the "universal" part or word scares me..they have no definition, instead they just spew the word
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K.Mooneyham wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:37 am
Paladin wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:43 am
03Lightningrocks wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:10 pm
I haven't been to a gun show in a couple of years now, but from what I remember, the only firearms being sold by private individuals (not licensed dealers) were mostly old revolvers and bolt action rifles. Quite a few were military surplus bolt actions like Springfields, Mausers, Arisakas, that sort of thing. I remember seeing a guy walking around the Will Rogers Center in Fort Worth with a scoped bolt-action rifle that had a sign on it saying "For Sale". All the "cool guns" like semi-automatic pistols and ARs/AKs, etc, they were all being sold by licensed dealers...who we all know make you fill out the paperwork just like buying one in a gun store.
At the shows around Houston there are private sellers selling modern semi-autos as much as older stuff. Some are a bit suspicious, at every show with dozens of guns.
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At the shows around Houston there are private sellers selling modern semi-autos as much as older stuff. Some are a bit suspicious, at every show with dozens of guns.
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Good! Private individuals should be free to sell tools/cars/guns/golf clubs/etc without government involvement, barring breaking of laws. I don't believe I should be required to purchase only from retail businesses if I prefer buying from individuals. Laisse-faire.
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rm9792 wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2019 12:05 pm
K.Mooneyham wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:37 am
Paladin wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:43 am
03Lightningrocks wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:10 pm
I haven't been to a gun show in a couple of years now, but from what I remember, the only firearms being sold by private individuals (not licensed dealers) were mostly old revolvers and bolt action rifles. Quite a few were military surplus bolt actions like Springfields, Mausers, Arisakas, that sort of thing. I remember seeing a guy walking around the Will Rogers Center in Fort Worth with a scoped bolt-action rifle that had a sign on it saying "For Sale". All the "cool guns" like semi-automatic pistols and ARs/AKs, etc, they were all being sold by licensed dealers...who we all know make you fill out the paperwork just like buying one in a gun store.
At the shows around Houston there are private sellers selling modern semi-autos as much as older stuff. Some are a bit suspicious, at every show with dozens of guns.
Well, as I said, I haven't been to a show in a few years, and I live way up in North Texas. So, things might have changed, or it might be just something down there in the Houston area.
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