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He has maintained an office in Harlem to perpetuate the legend.......


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I still take extreme offense to the "Bill Clinton...black president" remark. If most of my community would wake up and see the insult they would also...but alas most are sheeple looking for a gov. handout bcuz they think "something or someone" is holding them back.

Really not realizing that anything in our past that did at one time restrict us, had gov complicity at some level.
So why would you want the gov in your bizness or life in anyway know?

Black people have struggled (partly our fault and bias of others) in past decades but there is know reason to say so know especially for younger generations for they have not experienced the bias at an extreme level like my parent's and grandparents.

I certainly don't believe things are as bad as they where 20-25 years ago. Most people today are tolerant and open minded.
Some aren't but I think that # is dewindling every day, ymmv , jmho.

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All those pictures are simply foolish. :oops:
There is a reason that you will only find them on the internet and NEVER on a legitimate reputable media outlet. (Liberal OR Conservative) It is because they are all photoshop fakes. :biggrinjester:
Send me a picture of yourself and I have a buddy who can turn it into a picture of you marching along side Hitler. "rlol"
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bradfromearth wrote:All those pictures are simply foolish. :oops:
There is a reason that you will only find them on the internet and NEVER on a legitimate reputable media outlet. (Liberal OR Conservative) It is because they are all photoshop fakes. :biggrinjester:
Send me a picture of yourself and I have a buddy who can turn it into a picture of you marching along side Hitler. "rlol"
Well Brad they were on legitimate news media and they are not photoshopped so you can come back down to earth now and anchor yourself in reality.

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bradfromearth wrote:All those pictures are simply foolish. :oops:
There is a reason that you will only find them on the internet and NEVER on a legitimate reputable media outlet. (Liberal OR Conservative) It is because they are all photoshop fakes. :biggrinjester:
Send me a picture of yourself and I have a buddy who can turn it into a picture of you marching along side Hitler. "rlol"
I use Photoshop all the time and can tell you that these are not 'chopped.
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The last photo was from the Houston campaign quarters during the primary.
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Here's two more:
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nitrogen wrote:Here's two more:
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Two more which, chopped images or maobama supporters?

Is that you and the missus?

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Liberty wrote:The last photo was from the Houston campaign quarters during the primary.
Ok I am a bit surprised at the comments saying they are from true media sources and they are real pictures. But hey I am open minded so could someone post some links to these same photos on big name media web sites. If they are real then I am sure I can see them there too...right.

Seriously folks and I do mean seriously, If these pictures were the real deal then we would have seen this on CNN or FOX. Somewhere other than an internet message board. I mean look guys some of us may be liberal but we aren’t dumb. I mean did we not just see a political smear campaign by the McCain camp to try to get SOMETHING - ANYTHING with this kind of message to stick. Millions of dollars spent by very smart and determined people and the BEST picture, real picture that ever came out was one tossed out by the Clinton camp. Obama in a Turban - A TURBAN. While at a political function - In another country where he was being POLITE in dressing in the local garb. And you think these pictures you found are real. :oops: Folks there are porn sites that are dedicated to picture fakes, you can see just about ever celebrity “nude”.

Links please.
Thanks in advance for any efforts on helping me find these. I for one certainly want to always hear the whole truth so If I am sorely mistaken in my support for this next President then I would like to be educated. :patriot:
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bradfromearth wrote:
Liberty wrote:The last photo was from the Houston campaign quarters during the primary.
Ok I am a bit surprised at the comments saying they are from true media sources and they are real pictures. But hey I am open minded so could someone post some links to these same photos on big name media web sites. If they are real then I am sure I can see them there too...right.

Seriously folks and I do mean seriously, If these pictures were the real deal then we would have seen this on CNN or FOX. Somewhere other than an internet message board. I mean look guys some of us may be liberal but we aren’t dumb. I mean did we not just see a political smear campaign by the McCain camp to try to get SOMETHING - ANYTHING with this kind of message to stick. Millions of dollars spent by very smart and determined people and the BEST picture, real picture that ever came out was one tossed out by the Clinton camp. Obama in a Turban - A TURBAN. While at a political function - In another country where he was being POLITE in dressing in the local garb. And you think these pictures you found are real. :oops: Folks there are porn sites that are dedicated to picture fakes, you can see just about ever celebrity “nude”.

Links please.
Thanks in advance for any efforts on helping me find these. I for one certainly want to always hear the whole truth so If I am sorely mistaken in my support for this next President then I would like to be educated. :patriot:
Thanks
Brad
After all the things that have come out of this mans mouth, and from his supporters I can't believe anyone doubts the veracity of the the pictures. Here is the Houston channel 26 report on this.

http://www.myfoxhouston.com/myfox/pages ... eId=3.14.1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

notice that the reporter wasn't phased at all by the che flag. It did receive a lot of attention on the cable Fox News. Of course CNN and the big 3 ignored it as they were too occupied with tingly feelings running down their legs.
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TxLobo wrote:
bradfromearth wrote:
Liberty wrote:The last photo was from the Houston campaign quarters during the primary.
Ok I am a bit surprised at the comments saying they are from true media sources and they are real pictures. But hey I am open minded so could someone post some links to these same photos on big name media web sites. If they are real then I am sure I can see them there too...right.

Seriously folks and I do mean seriously, If these pictures were the real deal then we would have seen this on CNN or FOX. Somewhere other than an internet message board. I mean look guys some of us may be liberal but we aren’t dumb. I mean did we not just see a political smear campaign by the McCain camp to try to get SOMETHING - ANYTHING with this kind of message to stick. Millions of dollars spent by very smart and determined people and the BEST picture, real picture that ever came out was one tossed out by the Clinton camp. Obama in a Turban - A TURBAN. While at a political function - In another country where he was being POLITE in dressing in the local garb. And you think these pictures you found are real. :oops: Folks there are porn sites that are dedicated to picture fakes, you can see just about ever celebrity “nude”.

Links please.
Thanks in advance for any efforts on helping me find these. I for one certainly want to always hear the whole truth so If I am sorely mistaken in my support for this next President then I would like to be educated. :patriot:
Thanks
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... video is a little harder to "shop" .. here's one video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VRCeBSOOEM&NR=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Few more:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5lJrMvqahA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLy_zL__QLM" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (Can't Photoshop the actual video of the Flag)

You asked for links...here they are. Anything else?
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That is very, very scary.

I wonder if the folks junping up and down really understand what the hammer and sickle and che represent?

I wonder if they have been around the world and seen some of these countries that have done so well under communism or socialism. I wonder if they understand the right to stand thier and dance around would not be afforded to them under these regimes? Unless of course you are dancing around for what they want you to dance around for.

I was tickled pink about Heller (not perfect but better then losing) but did not dance around.

Any cult of personality is scary to me.

Methinks (hopes really) it will die off in a year or so. I mean I think they expect BHO to change stuff, but change in this country takes a long time, it was designed that for exactly this reason.
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Yep, it's me and the missus. We voted for "Maobama" (or, more honestly voted against) the existing Republican party.

I'm going to say something that'll probably shock you all. I don't think a small touch of Marxist/Leninist/socialist thinking is a bad thing. We are America; we steal from plenty of other governments. I think there's a touch of value in Marxism/Leninism. A TOUCH mind you, and a whole lot more that should be carved away and thrown out. I think looking toward the common good is a good thing; but not to the degree that many communists / socialists would do it. Capitalism is still the best system out there, but I do think it needs a kick back in the right place now and then. Like today, for instance.

I do not think that the government should be giving people free handouts, but I do think that the government should be looking toward protecting the working folk nearly as much, if not moreso than they protect corporate interests today.

I am sickened by my country's current "I got mine, screw the rest of you" mentality; and I think we need something a little different. I didn't like my choices at all this election; I do think Obama has the possability to move us too far left; but considering how the last Great Depression ended; I'm guessing the coming one will have to be fixed with massive government projects, much like rearming for WWII did.

I'm sure many of you disagree with me, and that's fine. Disagreements make life interesting, as my dad says.

I still think he's 200% wrong on guns, and I'm with all of you on the fight to keep our 2a rights.

Sure, some people that voted for him are silly kooks that are easy to make fun of. I'm sure McCain got a great deal of the white power vote, but that means about as much as the Obama kooks do.

So yeah, the missus and I voted for "Maobama". We decided to vote for a professional liberal rather than a closet liberal. I posted our pic in here because I wanted you folks to realize that yes, some people have honest disagreements with how things are being run, and want to go in another direction.
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bradfromearth wrote:
Liberty wrote:The last photo was from the Houston campaign quarters during the primary.
Ok I am a bit surprised at the comments saying they are from true media sources and they are real pictures. But hey I am open minded so could someone post some links to these same photos on big name media web sites. If they are real then I am sure I can see them there too...right.

Seriously folks and I do mean seriously, If these pictures were the real deal then we would have seen this on CNN or FOX. Somewhere other than an internet message board. I mean look guys some of us may be liberal but we aren’t dumb. I mean did we not just see a political smear campaign by the McCain camp to try to get SOMETHING - ANYTHING with this kind of message to stick. Millions of dollars spent by very smart and determined people and the BEST picture, real picture that ever came out was one tossed out by the Clinton camp. Obama in a Turban - A TURBAN. While at a political function - In another country where he was being POLITE in dressing in the local garb. And you think these pictures you found are real. :oops: Folks there are porn sites that are dedicated to picture fakes, you can see just about ever celebrity “nude”.

Links please.
Thanks in advance for any efforts on helping me find these. I for one certainly want to always hear the whole truth so If I am sorely mistaken in my support for this next President then I would like to be educated. :patriot:
Thanks
Brad
Brad, here you go. It's not exactly what you asked for, but it does refute your assertion that the McCain camp was desperate to smear Obama:
The Attack Ads John McCain Never Ran
Time.com {hardly a conservative site...}
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 25, 2008 AT 5:35 PM


TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 25, 2008 AT 5:35 PM
The Attack Ads John McCain Never Ran
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I recently spoke to Fred Davis III, the advertising mastermind behind John McCain's presidential run. Looking back, he described a campaign of missed opportunities. "I made a list once, which no one will ever see, of all the reasons that my hands were tied on this campaign," he told me. "And I've never had a list this long."
The biggest handcuff, he said, was the concern that McCain's attacks on Obama would be viewed as playing the race card. (The campaign still ran into trouble; McCain's operation was accused of playing the race card here and here.) Davis described an environment of overwhelming caution at McCain campaign headquarters. A series of spots that Davis made attacking Obama's record on crime never ran, because of concerns that they would be seen as playing to racial bigotry. The campaign dropped drums from ad scores because they might be viewed as an African tribal reference. Davis said he avoided using bad photos of Obama in the spots because of concerns about racism charges. Most importantly, the campaign never went close to Rev. Jeremiah Wright, on orders from McCain himself. But Davis still developed ads to attack Obama on Wright.
"My favorite ad of the campaign was as simple as it could be," Davis said. "And it started out something like, 'Long before the world knew of John McCain or Barack Obama, one of them spent five years in a hellhole because he refused early release to honor his fellow prisoners, while the other one wouldn't walk out of a church after 20 years of the guy spewing hatred towards America.' And the last line was, 'Character matters, especially when no one is listening.'"
Read the whole story here on Time.com.
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The Anti-Obama Campaign That Didn't Happen
By MICHAEL SCHERER Monday, Nov. 24, 2008

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A John McCain ad

What if the McCain campaign had run ads using footage of Barack Obama dancing with Ellen DeGeneres to show his coziness with celebrity? Or followed up on its Paris Hilton ad with others featuring Donald Trump and Jessica Simpson? All of that was on the drawing board of Fred Davis III, the advertising whiz that John McCain has used for almost all of his campaign media and one of the most talented conservative political operatives in America. Oh yes, he also had an Internet ad up his sleeve that would attack Obama's celebrity by associating him with Oprah. But in the end, he scotched that one. "We decided you don't really fight Santa Claus or Oprah," he says, "so we removed her."

In an extended interview with TIME, Davis detailed what might have been in the campaign ad war — and what self-censorship the McCain staff imposed on themselves regarding the issue of race. For most of the campaign, Davis functioned as McCain's silent partner. While journalists hounded McCain's senior campaign aides, people like Steve Schmidt, Mark Salter and Rick Davis (no relation), Fred Davis worked in the shadows. He designed and often wrote the scripts for the most stinging of McCain's spots — the Web ad that depicted Obama as a messiah, the kindergarten ad that suggested Obama wanted to teach young kids about sex and the many others that questioned Obama's qualifications for the White House. (See the best Obama pictures from the campaign.)

"My favorite ad of the campaign was as simple as it could be," Davis said. "And it started out something like, 'Long before the world knew of John McCain or Barack Obama, one of them spent five years in a hellhole because he refused early release to honor his fellow prisoners, while the other one wouldn't walk out of a church after 20 years of the guy spewing hatred towards America.' And the last line was, 'Character matters, especially when no one is listening.' " The ad never ran, however, because McCain ruled the topic of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, the preacher of Obama's Chicago church, out of bounds shortly after he locked up the Republican nomination.

Good advertising men are almost always mischiefmakers at heart, the sort who don't mind a little confrontation and who revel in a bit of controversy. And so Davis is wistful at the missed opportunities of the McCain campaign. "I made a list once, which no one will ever see, of all the reasons that my hands were tied on this campaign," he says. "And I've never had a list this long." One of his biggest struggles, Davis says, was to come up with negative spots against a historic, groundbreaking candidate without stepping on taboos. "One of the big hands that I felt was tied behind my back was [that] so many things — like [Obama's record on] crime — you would logically do were perceived as 'Oh, we can't do that. That was playing the race card,' " he says, adding that the campaign created a whole series of crime attacks against Obama that were never aired. "Reverend Wright? 'Oh, can't do that; they'll say we are playing the race card.' [William] Ayers? For the longest time, 'Oh, can't do that. We're playing the race card.' "

Davis says that concern about race played a major role in the entire aesthetic of McCain's ads. The photographs of Obama that the ads used, for instance, which often showed Obama elongated and smiling, were carefully selected, he recalls. "We chose them with only one thing in mind, and that is to not make them bad pictures because bad pictures would be seen as racist," Davis says. "How many shots in their ads did they use a John McCain [photo] looking decent and smiling?" He says the campaign also agonized over the music in the ads, paying special care not to play drum-heavy tracks that could be seen as an African tribal reference. "We were held to a totally different standard," he says.

Nevertheless, the McCain campaign was unable to escape the charge that it was playing the race card. An Associated Press analysis called the campaign's invocations of the once violent 1960s radical Ayers "racially tinged" because they evoked the word terrorist. McCain was also accused of playing on race for running an ad that highlighted Obama's relationship with Franklin Raines, a former executive at Fannie Mae who is black. Says Davis: "I never saw anybody play the race card but the Obama campaign."

Still, for Davis, it was an exhilarating if frustrating experience. In addition to the McCain account, his firm oversaw ads for five Senate races, including the hard-fought Elizabeth Dole and John Sununu campaigns. It was a career high point for Davis, who started in advertising at the age of 19, after his father died and he had to take over the family public relations business. At the height of the campaign, Davis, who is the nephew of Oklahoma Senator James Inhofe, oversaw nine edit shops, producing up to three spots a day, as well as the stage production for the Republican National Convention. "You wouldn't know what tomorrow's need was until tomorrow morning early," he says. "And it needed to be out that day."

By all rights, Fred Davis III should be living in a red state, a place teeming with clapboard churches, cowboy hats and gun racks. Instead, the Oklahoma native has chosen to live in sunny Santa Barbara, Calif., and has located his company, Strategic Perception, in sinful Hollywood. But he's had to pay a price for it all. The neighbors haven't exactly been friendly. Every day for about six months, he put a "John McCain for President" sign in front of his home. And almost every night it would be stolen. "I wanted to leave a note there and say, 'You idiots don't get it. I have an unlimited supply,' " Davis says, still laughing about it.

After the election ended, he participated in a panel discussion before a crowd of Hollywood bigwigs. He was met with disapproving grumbles when he was introduced as the guy who made McCain's Paris Hilton ad. "It wasn't a good evening really," Davis says. As he was trying to leave the hall, former Seinfeld actor Jason Alexander confronted him. "He basically wanted to know how I sleep at night."

Even with the limitations on his ads, Davis says he holds no ill feelings toward Obama. He says the McCain campaign's plan, which was largely dependent on tactical attacks on Obama, was working well until the financial meltdown, which began to accelerate in mid-September. "You've got to look at it and say, my Lord, it was just Obama's time. You know, his stars aligned right," Davis says. "And I think he's an incredibly gifted candidate. Let's hope, and I do hope, and I hope I'm right, that he'll be a very gifted President. And I hope he'll rule from the middle. And I hope he'll, you know, be inclusive of Republicans. And if he does those things, he could be one of the great Presidents in history."

Such kind words for Obama may be surprising coming from the man who oversaw the media campaign to destroy Obama's reputation. But Davis is not the kind of Republican operative who looks on liberals with personal animus. At the end of the day, he still has to live among them.
Whatever negative ads were run by the McCain campaign, they were no less egregious, and no less in number than those run by the Obama campaign - not to mention that Obama had the 527 media in his pocket. You remember them? The ones who felt a thrill go up their legs at the news that Obama was going to run? They certainly helped to propagate the "McCain can't use a computer" stories and other similar slime-ball tactics (while conveniently failing to mention that Obama can't land a jet at night on the deck of a carrier). The idiots.

In any case, the McCain campaign was severely hamstrung from being able to go after Obama on a number of quite legitimate concerns because they were walking on eggshells to avoid having the Obama camp place the race card at everything they put out - which the Obama camp did anyway. The disingenuousness of the left in this regard is absolutely remarkable. They wrote the book on dirty politics - just ask Richard Daley - but they accuse the right of what they are themselves guilty of. You can cut the hypocrisy with a knife.

So why not just accept that dirty pool is part of politics, which is it largely why it is not the province of respectable people, and admit that your side is as guilty of it as anyone else is, and that your candidates are just as capable of turning a blind eye to slime in the pursuit of their personal ambitions?
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