mikeintexas wrote:The way I read it, SA, is they will be doing away with non-resident permits with this new legislation. With any other state's permits honored, there should be no need.
I also believe that it is a "concealed" permit. In the first 25 years of my life, I never saw anyone open carry except LEO. But I have been wrong before, too.
Here's a link to the bill that passed and will be going to the governor.
http://coolice.legis.state.ia.us/Cool-I ... ill=SF2379" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I don't find any language repealing the non-res permit. Remember that Texas, too, allows non-residents to get a Texas CHL and we have wide reciprocity.
Regarding open carry, the local sheriff had complete discretion. Those who were granted permits had to be careful -- perhaps even more so than required by law -- to not give the sheriff any reason to revoke or deny renewal to their permit.
As for it being "concealed-only", that doesn't appear to be true.
Here's the general prohibition on carrying weapons:
724.4 CARRYING WEAPONS.
1. Except as otherwise provided in this section, a person who
goes armed with a dangerous weapon concealed on or about the person,
or who, within the limits of any city, goes armed with a pistol or
revolver, or any loaded firearm of any kind, whether concealed or
not, or who knowingly carries or transports in a vehicle a pistol or
revolver, commits an aggravated misdemeanor.
Notice that:
What I take from the above is:
1) Open carry is legal outside city limits but concealed carry is not.
2) All carry is illegal inside city limits.
3) All car carry is illegal.
Here's the exception for permit holders:
i. A person who has in the person's possession and who
displays to a peace officer on demand a valid permit to carry weapons
which has been issued to the person, and whose conduct is within the
limits of that permit. A person shall not be convicted of a
violation of this section if the person produces at the person's
trial a permit to carry weapons which was valid at the time of the
alleged offense and which would have brought the person's conduct
within this exception if the permit had been produced at the time of
the alleged offense.
The code surrounding the application for a permit is long but can be found here
http://coolice.legis.state.ia.us/Cool-I ... a=83#724.2.
The word "concealed" only appears a few times and none of them are in the section dealing with a permit to carry weapons (some references had to do with knives, others with long guns being transported, one has to do with a weapon on school grounds, etc.)
In conclusion, my understanding of Iowa law (assuming the bill on the governor's desk becomes law) is:
1) Non-residents can still apply to the Commissioner of Public Safety and, like Sheriffs for residents, the process is now shall-issue.
2) All other permits or licenses issued by another
state to non-Iowa residents are recognized.
3) This is a Permit to Carry Weapons, not a concealed handgun permit.
Any corrections will be gladly received.
Now if only we can get Texas law update.
Iowa now has a better law in many ways:
1) Potentially fewer off-limits places. I say potentially because I'm not in a position at the moment to verify what I've read in other news articles. Those listed just a handful of places. No 51% signs, professional sporting event restrictions, voting locations, etc.
2) Recognition of all state-issued permits and licenses.
3) Permit is cheaper.
4) SSN is specifically optional and no checking for outstanding student loans, etc.
5) There doesn't appear to be any distinction between concealed and unconcealed carry.
6) Training courses don't have to be specific. Military service counts. Courses from other states count. NRA courses are acceptable.
7) No fingerprints taken and no photograph provided.
8) No classes of weapons (like our semi-automatic and Non semi-automatic).
I know open carry isn't common there but now that you don't have to stay in the good graces to get or keep a permit, I'm curious. Similarly, if an Iowa permit allows open carry, I wonder if a Texas CHL by reciprocity would allow it (some states specifically say that they recognize another state's license by its "terms" and thus concealed)? If not, that might be a good reason to get one of the brand new, shall-issue non-res Iowa licenses. 
