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[Oldgringo]

Unless the Repubs come up with a viable candidate and a viable platform PDQ, Barack Obama will continue to be the POTUS after the November 2012 elections...and that's a fact, Jack. Am I the only one who sees this...

Bashing Obama on this forum ain't gonna' change nothing! It's up to the opposition party (GOP) to give the American voters a realistic and believable choice come election time. Otherwise, it'll be 2016 before there's another POTUS. Just out of curiosity, how old will you and your offspring be in 2016?

I don't necessarily agree. Bush 41 was at 90% with 2 years to go, and left office at 28% approval. McCain overtook Obama and led 2 weeks before the 2008 election, but fell sharply when the Washington panicked and Tarp was voted on. James Carvel had it right when he coined the phrase, "It's the economy stupid." While I may not necessarily be a fan, Romney has a chance and so does Huckabee (if he runs). In fact some in the already announced field have a good shot at it, and others not announced do as well. Regardless of a platform, if the economy is no better, unemployment above 8% and continued skyrocketing debt, I believe Obama will be toast. Republicans wont elect the next POTUS and neither will the Dems. It's always the Independents that decide elections. When all is said and done, it will all boil down to Carvel's remark, and in politics 18 months is a lifetime. Who knows what will happen between now and then. Since you asked I will be pushing 71 at election time 2012, my son will be 47 and my daughter 46.

We're the same age. As for the election, we'll have to wait and see. I see where Gingrich threw his hat in the ring today. I personally think Gingrich and Rice would make a tremendous American team BUT what are they gonna' do for ME?

[mgood]

Unless the Repubs come up with a viable candidate and a viable platform PDQ, Barack Obama will continue to be the POTUS after the November 2012 elections...and that's a fact, Jack. Am I the only one who sees this...

I never thought Slick Willy would win a second term. He did. (I couldn't imagine anyone voting for him. Didn't know anyone who would vote for him.)
The dems never thought Dubya could win a second term. He did. (I lived in California at the time. My friends and coworkers out there couldn't imagine anyone voting for him. Didn't know anyone who would vote for him, except me. )
Anyone who is comfortable in their belief that Obama won't win again is delusional. We need a candidate, an electable candidate, to oppose him.

[Oldgringo]

Unless the Repubs come up with a viable candidate and a viable platform PDQ, Barack Obama will continue to be the POTUS after the November 2012 elections...and that's a fact, Jack. Am I the only one who sees this...

I never thought Slick Willy would win a second term. He did. (I couldn't imagine anyone voting for him. Didn't know anyone who would vote for him.)
The dems never thought Dubya could win a second term. He did. (I lived in California at the time. My friends and coworkers out there couldn't imagine anyone voting for him. Didn't know anyone who would vote for him, except me. )
Anyone who is comfortable in their belief that Obama won't win again is delusional. We need a candidate, an electable candidate and platform, to oppose him.

....fixed it for us...

FWIW, I never did find anyone who voted for Carter but...

[mgood]

....fixed it for us...

I approve this message.

[The Annoyed Man]

Unless the Repubs come up with a viable candidate and a viable platform PDQ, Barack Obama will continue to be the POTUS after the November 2012 elections...and that's a fact, Jack. Am I the only one who sees this...

Bashing Obama on this forum ain't gonna' change nothing! It's up to the opposition party (GOP) to give the American voters a realistic and believable choice come election time. Otherwise, it'll be 2016 before there's another POTUS. Just out of curiosity, how old will you and your offspring be in 2016?

NO, you are not the only one who sees this. I was merely pointing out that the AP poll on which this "60%" figure is based is severely flawed.

But, Obama is NOT invulnerable. He can easily be hammered on immigration/border control. The "facts" he trotted out in his El Paso speech are not facts at all, as anybody who actually has to live along the border and deal with the issues knows. He may be entitled to his own opinions, but he isn't entitled to his own facts.

Obama can be hammered on his conduct of the war in Afghanistan. The MSM allows to go unmentioned that there have been approximately 1,500 American combat deaths there since the invasion in 2001. Of those deaths, approximately 1,000 have occurred since 2009. He gets points for killing Bin Laden. He loses points for taking all the credit and for his mismanagement of the aftermath. At least half the country knows this.

He can, without a doubt, be hammered on the economy. Reagan famously asked during the campaign against Carter, "Are you better off today?" The answer was a resounding "NO!" Whoever runs against Obama ought to drive that point home relentlessly. It works.

The Tea Party movement is going to surprise the pants off of a lot of people this go 'round. They got a republican elected governor of New Mexico last year, for cryin out loud! Given the disparity between democrats and republicans in New Mexico, that had to have been largely democrat voters rejecting the last 8 years of Bill Richardson's policies.

The dilemma that the republican party faces is that, with few exceptions, they can't get anyone elected dog-catcher at this point in time without Tea Party support. The problem is that with the war, the economy, and immigration at the forefront of voter concerns in this election cycle, pushing social conservatism is not going to fly, and it will serve as a distraction from those winning issues. And I say this as a died in the wool, hard core, social conservative. So the horns of that dilemma upon which the party finds itself hung is in finding the candidate who can: A) successfully pound home those crucial points; and B) refuse to get dragged into a mud-pit over his/her personal social beliefs—in the face of an unsympathetic media which will pound that home anyway.

That is sad, as I personally believe that social conservatism, practiced as personal rectitude by people who are concerned with virtue, and not just fiscal conservatism alone, is what will actually save this country. But, there are enough voters who know no shame, who are personally infested with the demons of the sin of pride, who place more importance on what The Situation is going to say to Snookie than they do on the future survival of their nation, who are morally lazy and who don't believe in doing a good job at anything simply for the sake of doing it well, that a socially conservative candidate who indirectly beats up on voters for their lack of personal integrity cannot win this election.

This is why I actually don't have a problem so much anymore with Newt Gingrich as a possible candidate. I don't think that most Americans care about his divorce or about his mistresses. I do care personally, but I would rather see him in office than have to live through another 4 years of Obama.

I am a small business owner who started his company in May of 2008. For the first 6 months, my business ran like gangbusters. Then followed the longest, hardest two years of my life. Four more years of Obama's economic policies will kill my business off. I am willing to accept as president a candidate who may not meet with my personal ideals of moral rectitude, but who will provide strong leadership (a quality which Obama severely lacks) and fiscal sanity (which he also lacks) and guide the nation back toward the good path of reliance on our Constitution as our foundational principles, and not merely a set of suggestions.

[shootthesheet]

The poll was skewed.

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Thank you for posting. Nothing coming out from the media can be trusted as the full story. That is why we need to start educating our family and friends now about what he has and is doing. If the people choose to elect him again that is one thing. If they do so because they were never shown the truth that is on us. If we do nothing, as individuals, to get the truth out we can only blame ourselves for what he is going to do to our rights.

[blue]

Never underestimate the repubs,

The republicans got "o" elected by finding someone that obviously could NOT even beat "o" from the very start, then doggedly refused to change and put a repub in that could win.

In prize fighting that is known as ' taking a dive '

just 2 cents.

[The Annoyed Man]

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/toy-com ... on-figure/
BUSINESS
TOY COMPANY UNVEILS OBAMA SEAL TEAM 6 ACTION FIGURE
Posted on May 12, 2011 at 12:03pm by Jonathon M. Seidl

Ever since news came out that the Navy‘s elite SEAL Team 6 completed the raid on Osama bin Laden’s compound and killed the world’s number one terrorist, the country has been fascinated with the unit. Now, that fascination has made its way to an action figure. But there’s a catch.

The new SEAL action figure doesn’t feature a GI Joe-style serviceman. Instead, its modeled after a beefed up Barack Obama:

This is actually not a joke. When I first saw it, I thought it had to be The Onion or something like it, but this is for real.

[74novaman]

Why'd they put Michelles arms on that toy?

[Heartland Patriot]

Edited to fix a poor word choice on my part...

Unless the Repubs come up with a viable candidate and a viable platform PDQ, Barack Obama will continue to be the POTUS after the November 2012 elections...and that's a fact, Jack. Am I the only one who sees this...

Bashing Obama on this forum ain't gonna' change nothing! It's up to the opposition party (GOP) to give the American voters a realistic and believable choice come election time. Otherwise, it'll be 2016 before there's another POTUS. Just out of curiosity, how old will you and your offspring be in 2016?

NO, you are not the only one who sees this. I was merely pointing out that the AP poll on which this "60%" figure is based is severely flawed.

But, Obama is NOT invulnerable. He can easily be hammered on immigration/border control. The "facts" he trotted out in his El Paso speech are not facts at all, as anybody who actually has to live along the border and deal with the issues knows. He may be entitled to his own opinions, but he isn't entitled to his own facts.

Obama can be hammered on his conduct of the war in Afghanistan. The MSM allows to go unmentioned that there have been approximately 1,500 American combat deaths there since the invasion in 2001. Of those deaths, approximately 1,000 have occurred since 2009. He gets points for killing Bin Laden. He loses points for taking all the credit and for his mismanagement of the aftermath. At least half the country knows this.

He can, without a doubt, be hammered on the economy. Reagan famously asked during the campaign against Carter, "Are you better off today?" The answer was a resounding "NO!" Whoever runs against Obama ought to drive that point home relentlessly. It works.

The Tea Party movement is going to surprise the pants off of a lot of people this go 'round. They got a republican elected governor of New Mexico last year, for cryin out loud! Given the disparity between democrats and republicans in New Mexico, that had to have been largely democrat voters rejecting the last 8 years of Bill Richardson's policies.

The dilemma that the republican party faces is that, with few exceptions, they can't get anyone elected dog-catcher at this point in time without Tea Party support. The problem is that with the war, the economy, and immigration at the forefront of voter concerns in this election cycle, pushing social conservatism is not going to fly, and it will serve as a distraction from those winning issues. And I say this as a died in the wool, hard core, social conservative. So the horns of that dilemma upon which the party finds itself hung is in finding the candidate who can: A) successfully pound home those crucial points; and B) refuse to get dragged into a mud-pit over his/her personal social beliefs—in the face of an unsympathetic media which will pound that home anyway.

That is sad, as I personally believe that social conservatism, practiced as personal rectitude by people who are concerned with virtue, and not just fiscal conservatism alone, is what will actually save this country. But, there are enough voters who know no shame, who are personally infested with the demons of the sin of pride, who place more importance on what The Situation is going to say to Snookie than they do on the future survival of their nation, who are morally lazy and who don't believe in doing a good job at anything simply for the sake of doing it well, that a socially conservative candidate who indirectly beats up on voters for their lack of personal integrity cannot win this election.

This is why I actually don't have a problem so much anymore with Newt Gingrich as a possible candidate. I don't think that most Americans care about his divorce or about his mistresses. I do care personally, but I would rather see him in office than have to live through another 4 years of Obama.

I am a small business owner who started his company in May of 2008. For the first 6 months, my business ran like gangbusters. Then followed the longest, hardest two years of my life. Four more years of Obama's economic policies will kill my business off. I am willing to accept as president a candidate who may not meet with my personal ideals of moral rectitude, but who will provide strong leadership (a quality which Obama severely lacks) and fiscal sanity (which he also lacks) and guide the nation back toward the good path of reliance on our Constitution as our foundational principles, and not merely a set of suggestions.

Just wanted to say thank for you the insightful read on this whole election cycle mess. I would love to disagree with you, but I just can't. This whole election will be about who the American people believe will REALLY get the economy going again. Will the Bamster be able to snow folks through his press buddies or will enough of the American people see through the smoke and mirrors AND decide that whichever Republican gets the nomination, that presents a better alternative? I wish you the best of luck with your business. I'm going to school right now on my GI Bill and I worry that when I get done with this technical program in a year or so, that I just won't be able to land a job...I know a lot of others are in that boat right now. All we can do is keep talking to our friends and family who may be on the fence and say a little prayer, as the expression goes. I'd rather not think of four more years of the Community-Organizer-in-Chief at the helm...

[alvins]

well maybe if obama went out and did it himself i vote for him.wait no i wouldnt.lol