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XinTX wrote:I'm voting for Kang......

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OK folks we do need to get this one back on topic.
No bashing the banned either. :bigmouth :fire
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Did I miss something again?

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anygunanywhere wrote:Did I miss something again?

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Don't feel too bad...I missed out on all the wonderfulness too. :grumble :cry: :biggrinjester:

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No 2nd miss guys.
Just time to get back on topic if anyone remembers what it was originally about. Since not my area this will be my last post here for this little problem.
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Back on topic......

One of the Obama campaign's primary voices—Jonathan Chait—says that a Romney ad which makes use of the "You didn't build that" soundbite is an example of racism. Read Chait's column here: http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/07/re ... works.html

Here is the ad in question:

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Jonathan Chait's objection......get this......isn't that Obama did or didn't say those words; it's not that Chait says the words were taken out of context; rather, it's that Obama spoke them in his "black voice," and that this is, according to Chait, not how Obama normally speaks. Therefore, the ad is racist because it appeals to the racial divide.

Now, I dont' know about any of you, but A) most of America is so clearly post-racial that nobody even notices those kinds of differences anymore; B) I know plenty of white people who speak like that when they get excited or worked up; and C) Obama's public speaking is almost universally delivered in that style of diction. He may speak differently in private, but most of us will never know what he sounds like in private. That IS how he speaks in public. If we can't comment on any of his pronouncements because he "sounds black" when he delivers them, then how on earth are thinking people supposed to respond to anything he says? Furthermore, if he doesn't want people to think he "sounds black," then don't speak that way!!! Good gravy, how crazy is this in a world where only liberals care how he "sounds?"

And that's the point of the race card, isn't it? Some morally bent person has no other argument, so he throws down the race card in an attempt to stop ALL speech which is critical of the object of his esteem. That is liberals, and that is democrats for you. When the kitchen gets too hot for a liberal, he doesn't open a window or turn on a fan; he turns off the stove. He says, "We're not going to talk anymore. I'm going to speak, and you're going to listen!" History is full of people like that: Stalin, Mao, Lenin, Kim Il Sung, Saddam Hussein, and yes, Hitler.

Liberalism is one or both of two possibilities: it is terminally childish, and/or a mental disorder. It's adherents can only preach their class envy, multicultural division, grievance group primacy, and nanny state statism in the marketplace of ideas by refusing access to the market by anybody else—shutting down free speech and accusing anyone who disagrees of being a racist.

That's all they've got: "Your a racist! Disagree with me? That's because you're a racist! Don't want to pay too much in taxes? You're a racist! Don't want government to dictate your healthcare options to you? You're a racist! You cling to your guns and your religion because you're a racist! RACIST, RACIST, RACIST!!!!"

Well, I'm done with it. Lefties are insane. Period. They are crazy. Furthermore, their classist divisiveness which insists that people of one subgroup of Americans or other cannot make it without leftist help is, in itself, deeply deeply racist.

In a largely post-racial America, where the only people beating the racist drum are themselves deeply and disturbingly racist, I have nothing to say to such people. I cannot take them seriously. They are either children or crazy or both, but they are no longer in control of their faculties. They are completely devoid of critical thinking skills, and their moral compass is permanently broken. They are relevant for one reason, and one reason only: they control most of the media.

And that is scary stuff.

The only way to beat it is to mock it. Mock it until it holds no power over anything anymore. Mock it until it is so fully and completely marginalized that whenever anybody throws down the race card, the response of hoots and catcalls is so overwhelming that the fragile egos who resort to it will finally silence themselves under the sting of public ridicule and shunning.

The race card is weak sauce. But it isn't only weak sauce, it is evil most of the time. It used to have truth behind it, but continuously inappropriate accusations have robbed it of any meaning, and it has come to be the modern equivalent of the boy who cried "Wolf!" All tools of speech are most effective when sparingly used, because that is how they hold onto their importance. Whenever a simple political disagreement causes one party to call the other a nazi, it trivializes the real historical horror and brutality of the Third Reich. Similarly, when "Racist!" is all you've got, it trivializes the real scars left on the backs of real black slaves by the whip of the plantation overseer.

So what we are seeing now is the intellectual bankruptcy of the leftist movement and the democratic party. Obama's "you didn't build that" comments exposed them ideologically for what they are deep down to the bone, and people don't like it. They are out of ideas, Rasmussen (the only reliable polster) has Romney up 5 points in the wake of Obama's gaff, and all they've got left is the race card. It would be pitiful if they weren't so dangerous to the nation's future.
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Here is the best breakdown I've seen yet of the Obama/Elizabeth Warren "You didn't build that" speeches. As is often the case, there is no believer on fire like a mid-life convert (which includes me). This person has a blog, and he also posts under the nom de plume of "Zombie" on Pajama Meda. He identifies himself as a hard core liberal right up until 9/11, which is when he awoke from his intellectual slumbers.

This article absolutely DESTROYS the collectivist "you didn't build that" arguments, and I invite you all to read it, and to use the points he makes (using government facts and figures) to completely refure your unreasoning friends and family:

http://pjmedia.com/zombie/2012/07/18/th ... epage=true
President Obama’s instantly infamous “You didn’t build that” speech is a major turning point of the 2012 election not because it was a gaffe but because it was an accurate and concise summary of core progressive fiscal dogma. It was also a political blunder of epic proportions because in his speech Obama unintentionally proved the conservatives’ case for limited government.

This essay will show you how.

When Obama implied at the Roanoke, Virginia rally that some businessmen refuse to pay for public works from which they benefit, he presented a thesis which, like a three-legged stool, relies on three assumptions that must all be true for the argument to remain standing:

1. That the public programs he mentioned in his speech constitute a significant portion of the federal budget;
2. That business owners don’t already pay far more than their fair share of these expenses; and
3. That these specific public benefits are a federal issue, rather than a local issue.

If any of these legs fails, then the whole argument collapses.

For good measure, we won’t just kick out one, we’ll kick out all three.
This is a brilliant analysis, and "Zombie" is going to become part of my regular reading.
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The Annoyed Man wrote:Here is the best breakdown I've seen yet of the Obama/Elizabeth Warren "You didn't build that" speeches. As is often the case, there is no believer on fire like a mid-life convert (which includes me). This person has a blog, and he also posts under the nom de plume of "Zombie" on Pajama Meda. He identifies himself as a hard core liberal right up until 9/11, which is when he awoke from his intellectual slumbers.
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The Annoyed Man wrote:Here is the best breakdown I've seen yet of the Obama/Elizabeth Warren "You didn't build that" speeches. As is often the case, there is no believer on fire like a mid-life convert (which includes me). This person has a blog, and he also posts under the nom de plume of "Zombie" on Pajama Meda. He identifies himself as a hard core liberal right up until 9/11, which is when he awoke from his intellectual slumbers.

This article absolutely DESTROYS the collectivist "you didn't build that" arguments, and I invite you all to read it, and to use the points he makes (using government facts and figures) to completely refure your unreasoning friends and family:

http://pjmedia.com/zombie/2012/07/18/th ... epage=true
President Obama’s instantly infamous “You didn’t build that” speech is a major turning point of the 2012 election not because it was a gaffe but because it was an accurate and concise summary of core progressive fiscal dogma. It was also a political blunder of epic proportions because in his speech Obama unintentionally proved the conservatives’ case for limited government.

This essay will show you how.

When Obama implied at the Roanoke, Virginia rally that some businessmen refuse to pay for public works from which they benefit, he presented a thesis which, like a three-legged stool, relies on three assumptions that must all be true for the argument to remain standing:

1. That the public programs he mentioned in his speech constitute a significant portion of the federal budget;
2. That business owners don’t already pay far more than their fair share of these expenses; and
3. That these specific public benefits are a federal issue, rather than a local issue.

If any of these legs fails, then the whole argument collapses.

For good measure, we won’t just kick out one, we’ll kick out all three.
I hope they scream racism every time they open their mouths, I hope the Marxist in Chief cries racism in every speech. It's already worn pretty thin and more and more people are getting tired of the excuses. It doesn't work so well anymore when so much data is available on the internet. And I note a significant change in comments following various main stream news articles: many people have become very cynical about these claims. I think they're more likely to blow up in his face than earn him any votes.
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From: www.http://didntbuildthat.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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And there's the line at the Chick-Fil-A... Looks like a pretty popular place.

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